No studying? Damn! Next thing they'll tell me is I'll have to eat jelly doughnuts or sleep with a supermodel to get things done around here. I ask you, how much can one man give?

Xander ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


§ ita § - Jul 01, 2011 8:07:03 am PDT #17511 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

They wanted him! It wasn't rape! I have issues with the show! I'm also possibly a humourless shrew! I'm actually stunned no one else in the discussion agrees with me.


smonster - Jul 01, 2011 8:36:40 am PDT #17512 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Jeezy chreezy, ita. That's sad and depressing.


Dana - Jul 01, 2011 8:42:06 am PDT #17513 of 30001
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

I wish I was surprised.


tiggy - Jul 01, 2011 8:45:44 am PDT #17514 of 30001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

i'm going to play Devil's advocate here and say that while we've been told he does this, we've never actually seen it onscreen. at least to my recollection. he definitely uses them for blood and in Andie's case, blood and sex, but she's not exactly unwilling. Caroline was into him before any glamouring went on. he only really ever glamoured her to forget he was a vampire and that he was feeding on her. still deplorable, but not rape.


§ ita § - Jul 01, 2011 8:52:03 am PDT #17515 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

She was going to leave him when she found out he was a vampire. He glossed over that for her, and she stayed and slept with him under false, compelled circumstances. What do you call it?


tiggy - Jul 01, 2011 8:58:21 am PDT #17516 of 30001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

eh...i see what you're saying. by that same token, we should call Willow a rapist because she made Tara forget that they had broken up and then had sex with her.


sj - Jul 01, 2011 8:59:39 am PDT #17517 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

tiggy, many people said just that when S6 aired.


sj - Jul 01, 2011 8:59:40 am PDT #17518 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

§ ita § - Jul 01, 2011 9:00:14 am PDT #17519 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

And the show dealt with the violations that Willow did of her relationship with Tara. It admitted it was wrong and abusive.

This show doesn't, and I'm startled by how many fans don't see that these women would not have had sex with Damon if he hadn't compelled them, therefore he magicked his way into their knickers, and that's not consensual.


smonster - Jul 01, 2011 9:04:04 am PDT #17520 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

And the show dealt with the violations that Willow did of her relationship with Tara. It admitted it was wrong and abusive.

Yep. And Tara left her. There were consequences.