i'm going to play Devil's advocate here and say that while we've been told he does this, we've never actually seen it onscreen. at least to my recollection. he definitely uses them for blood and in Andie's case, blood and sex, but she's not exactly unwilling. Caroline was into him before any glamouring went on. he only really ever glamoured her to forget he was a vampire and that he was feeding on her. still deplorable, but not rape.
It's called a blaster, Will, a word that tends to discourage experimentation. Now, if it were called the Orgasmater, I'd be the first to try your basic button press approach.
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tiggy - Jul 01, 2011 8:45:44 am PDT #17514 of 30001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore
§ ita § - Jul 01, 2011 8:52:03 am PDT #17515 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
She was going to leave him when she found out he was a vampire. He glossed over that for her, and she stayed and slept with him under false, compelled circumstances. What do you call it?
tiggy - Jul 01, 2011 8:58:21 am PDT #17516 of 30001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore
eh...i see what you're saying. by that same token, we should call Willow a rapist because she made Tara forget that they had broken up and then had sex with her.
sj - Jul 01, 2011 8:59:39 am PDT #17517 of 30001
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tiggy, many people said just that when S6 aired.
sj - Jul 01, 2011 8:59:40 am PDT #17518 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
§ ita § - Jul 01, 2011 9:00:14 am PDT #17519 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
And the show dealt with the violations that Willow did of her relationship with Tara. It admitted it was wrong and abusive.
This show doesn't, and I'm startled by how many fans don't see that these women would not have had sex with Damon if he hadn't compelled them, therefore he magicked his way into their knickers, and that's not consensual.
smonster - Jul 01, 2011 9:04:04 am PDT #17520 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.
And the show dealt with the violations that Willow did of her relationship with Tara. It admitted it was wrong and abusive.
Yep. And Tara left her. There were consequences.
tiggy - Jul 01, 2011 9:04:45 am PDT #17521 of 30001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore
ahh...wasn't posting here then and i don't really recall it being mentioned at the Beta back in the day. of course, i had stopped reading a lot of topical stuff then too because of the crazies at the board.
And the show dealt with the violations that Willow did of her relationship with Tara. It admitted it was wrong and abusive.
yes and no. i mean, when Tara figured out what had happened, she left. she still came back though.
you're using "women", but we've really only seen it happen with Caroline, which isn't to say that he hasn't done it before or after. just that we haven't seen it.
personally, he wouldn't have to use any magic on me. vampire or no.
Jessica - Jul 01, 2011 9:09:15 am PDT #17522 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
yes and no. i mean, when Tara figured out what had happened, she left. she still came back though.
How is that yes and no? Women return to abusive relationships all the time - it doesn't negate that abuse is happening, it just means that people frequently act against their own best-interest when they're in love.
Frankenbuddha - Jul 01, 2011 9:12:09 am PDT #17523 of 30001
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This show doesn't, and I'm startled by how many fans don't see that these women would not have had sex with Damon if he hadn't compelled them, therefore he magicked his way into their knickers, and that's not consensual.
Much like Owen using the alien whatsit in the pilot of Torchwood, then. Yeah - I'd call that rape.