The minute they want to disassociate from him and he glamours them and they stay and kiss him and do anything else, he's sexually assaulted them at the very least, no?
Absolutely.
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Consuela - Jul 01, 2011 7:46:38 am PDT #17509 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
smonster - Jul 01, 2011 8:00:43 am PDT #17510 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.
The minute they want to disassociate from him and he glamours them and they stay and kiss him and do anything else, he's sexually assaulted them at the very least, no?
Yes. They are no longer able to consent.
§ ita § - Jul 01, 2011 8:07:03 am PDT #17511 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
They wanted him! It wasn't rape! I have issues with the show! I'm also possibly a humourless shrew! I'm actually stunned no one else in the discussion agrees with me.
smonster - Jul 01, 2011 8:36:40 am PDT #17512 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.
Jeezy chreezy, ita. That's sad and depressing.
Dana - Jul 01, 2011 8:42:06 am PDT #17513 of 30001
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."
I wish I was surprised.
tiggy - Jul 01, 2011 8:45:44 am PDT #17514 of 30001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore
i'm going to play Devil's advocate here and say that while we've been told he does this, we've never actually seen it onscreen. at least to my recollection. he definitely uses them for blood and in Andie's case, blood and sex, but she's not exactly unwilling. Caroline was into him before any glamouring went on. he only really ever glamoured her to forget he was a vampire and that he was feeding on her. still deplorable, but not rape.
§ ita § - Jul 01, 2011 8:52:03 am PDT #17515 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
She was going to leave him when she found out he was a vampire. He glossed over that for her, and she stayed and slept with him under false, compelled circumstances. What do you call it?
tiggy - Jul 01, 2011 8:58:21 am PDT #17516 of 30001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore
eh...i see what you're saying. by that same token, we should call Willow a rapist because she made Tara forget that they had broken up and then had sex with her.
sj - Jul 01, 2011 8:59:39 am PDT #17517 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
tiggy, many people said just that when S6 aired.
sj - Jul 01, 2011 8:59:40 am PDT #17518 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."