Shir, I see your points. But this wasn't 'the show'. It was Comic Relief. If you don't live here, you won't understand the context. Dozens of shows do very short specials, which are basically parodies of themselves. They are never serious, because the whole night is based around comedy. Moffat was parodying himself. I thought he was a good sport to do that, as were the actors. This is not canon and would never be thought of as such. Have you seen the one with Rowan Atkinson? Or 2007's (I think) where Peter Davison appears and chats to Tennant about whose doctor he is, and it's clearly just Moffat being a fanboy?

I do think you have to understand the context, as much as it might be problematic in some ways. I see that focusing on Amy's skirt is a bit silly and could be seen as sexist. But they've sort of done it throughout, and they've objectified Rory just as much. They really really have.

As for 'it's all her fault', I can sort of see where you're coming from there. But I think Rory is blamed just as much for being easily distracted. I also don't see your problem with the idolisation of the Doctor. That's the entire point of the series. The journeys of the assistant are based around that. Martha leaving vs Rose wanting to change her life to fit him. Donna having to have her memory wiped. And they're not all in love with him, either, and I like that. The companions are much more self-aware and is control than they used to be, Amy included. None of them are there just to scream anymore. *That* I objected to.

I guess I worry when feminism says that any fun around women's sexuality is dangerous. I see its point there, but I can't agree. I think women have agency even while structure is a problem, and that sexuality - as subjects or objects - isn't necessarily objectification.

If you don't live here, you won't understand the context

That I can understand. I'll be more humble in my critique (really, no irony). And yet, there are few things that still don't justify it, IMHO.

But this wasn't 'the show'. It was Comic Relief... which are basically parodies of themselves

Have you seen the one with Rowan Atkinson?

Yep.

I didn't see a parody of The Doctor there, as it was with Atkinson. I saw a parody of Amy, mostly, and Amy's skirt, and some parody of Rory. But anyway, when I wrote "The Show", I meant DW franchise in general. Comic Relief included. The fact that it's a parody doesn't make it less sexist, and the fact that almost all of this parody was based on Amy's skirt jokes doesn't make it OK. It would have been OK if we lived in a better, more just and feminist world. I know some of the DW fans answer to this, but just take a look on the comments showing why people loved this sketch, and you might see my point. People don't laugh at the parody, because most of them can't see the parody. For them, it's real (and I'd take a chance that most of the people who are watching it on YouTube aren't from the UK, where they could have watched it on TV).

Which is kind of what I mean by "the show's responsibility". It's the show's (and Comic Relief's) responsibility to remember we are not in this world just yet. Because many will get the joke wrong.

I also don't see your problem with the idolisation of the Doctor. That's the entire point of the series

Sorry, was the entire point of Buffy the idolisation of Buffy? And yes, I know that the Doctor isn't human. But every characteristic of him, bad or good, is shown is such banal "OMG, he's teh awesome!!!1" way. Also fits to this sketch/parody.

Trust me, I hate being pushed to this radical position. I fully agree that sexuality shouldn't necessarily mean objectification (and God knows I fully embrace sexy dresses), but the thing is that its based on the presumption that you, as a viewer, need to know and understand a thing or two about feminism to get to this point and to see the parody. Because it comes with a responsibility on how not to objectify while sexualizing objects/subjects. Because at this episode, the role of Amy's skirt was as big as Amy's, if not bigger.

And you know what? Let's say it isn't sexist. It's still very lame (given it's Moffat), even if everyone get the joke.

But I wouldn't go on a battle on this issue. There are far more burning issues in feminism and popular culture to address. But this sketch is using too much goodwill to justify its existence. And mostly because it's Moffat, I'd expect more. Amy was an amazing companion. River Song? Kick ass character. Comic Relief? Jokes on Amy's skirt. Do you see my problem with it?

Edited for petty things such as grammar and clarity. Petty, I know.

ION, I just woke up from a dream in which I was watching Earth 2 on television. It was some kind of revival/re-editing of the original. The same actors in the roles, same story line, but somehow the angles of the camera work were different. It was shot as though one of the characters was holding the camera. And the Grendlers looked different.

Cool, WindSparrow! That beats my zombie kittens and babies dream to heck!

I miss Earth 2! I want to see Andi's cut.

I want to see Andi's cut.

I think in the World Without Shrimp, where Firefly gets at least ten full seasons, Earth 2 got more seasons than Seaquest DSV.

That's the world I signed up for! Except, I like shrimp.

I love shrimp, but I would definitely give it up for more Firefly.

Screw shrimp, I want more good SciFi. Like Defying Gravity getting at least 2 seasons so we finally learn what the hell Beta was?

quester, I hate having to disagree with you but DG was not good scifi.

oh, and the creator won't answer questions regarding where the show was going to go if it had continued.