So have we seen the Doctor Who Children in Need special? It's pretty adorable.
Buffistas might like it a lot, I suspect.
No, no, no, sir. No more chick pit for you. Come on.
Riley ,'Lessons'
Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon
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Consuela - Mar 20, 2011 8:02:51 am PDT #16266 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
Polter-Cow - Mar 20, 2011 8:37:47 am PDT #16267 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
I had NOT seen that, and I love it so much! Thanks for posting.
Shir - Mar 20, 2011 9:34:56 am PDT #16268 of 30001
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".
Adorable? I found it sexist.
Consuela - Mar 20, 2011 9:45:03 am PDT #16269 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
I get your point, Shir.
Speaking only for myself, I have no high expectations from DW when it comes to feminism, although they do get a lot of points from me for River Song.
beekaytee - Mar 20, 2011 11:53:55 am PDT #16270 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant
I didn't like this one at all.
Now, I understand that little will tickle me as much as 10 Teaching English Literature to Lauren Cooper. Still, the lascivious jokes just fell flat to me, and seemed like the sole reason for the entire set up.
An up-skirt joke, Moffat? Really? You are so much more clever than that.
Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Mar 20, 2011 1:14:36 pm PDT #16271 of 30001
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"
Adorable? I found it sexist.
Really? The jokes were a bit obvious (but then it was only a few minutes long), but I didn't think it was sexist. And I usually find rather a lot sexist...
Dana - Mar 20, 2011 1:28:16 pm PDT #16272 of 30001
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."
I also thought it was adorable.
WindSparrow - Mar 20, 2011 4:16:47 pm PDT #16273 of 30001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.
Really? The jokes were a bit obvious (but then it was only a few minutes long), but I didn't think it was sexist. And I usually find rather a lot sexist...
I think some of the sexist sting was taken out of it for me because Rory IS her husband and they are newlyweds, and the Doctor doesn't actually care about Amy's legs in and of themselves.
ETA: Anybody else now want to see any incarnation of the Doctor going "Guh" over Queen Elizabeth I's ankles?
Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Mar 20, 2011 10:52:19 pm PDT #16274 of 30001
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"
I think some of the sexist sting was taken out of it for me because Rory IS her husband and they are newlyweds, and the Doctor doesn't actually care about Amy's legs in and of themselves.
Quite. And you can't tell me Amy wouldn't have looked up Rory's Roman costume at some point.
Plus I thought the "Pond, put some trousers on" tone was rather consistent with the way the Doctor usually reacts to Amy's distractions of various kinds.
And it was for Comic Relief, after all. Nothing for that is meant to be too serious.
Shir - Mar 20, 2011 11:22:18 pm PDT #16275 of 30001
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".
Yeah. Really. Because just the fact that all of this special was based on jokes about Amy's body and/or her sexuality tells me a thing or two about the writing abilities of Moffat.
They haven't reduced her to a prop (almost), which is something, I guess. It's kind of what Sarkeesian is saying here: [link] and while I fairly believe that some of DW fans can be "inside the joke" (which is fair and common and OK among friends), the show just can't do it. They have responsibility, as a cult TV show. And when they fail at it, we get comments (on YouTube, where I watched it) such as Amy is such a slut :) . Not to mention the non-existent line between the "she has a short skirt" and "she was asking for it"/"it's her fault".
I don't have a lot of feminist expectations from DW as well, but they really crossed the line there. Because for some reason, they don't glorify Amy as a character as they do with the damn uber hero worshiping that's the Doctor. And I give them that, most times. But if all of the characters in your show are just used in various ways to shine on the overly-worshiped as is main character without being full characters in themselves (Amy is usually is. But not in this special), and you got nothing left but sexist jokes to do it with, I'd say you have a problem as a writer, and not just with me as a fan.
Phew. It felt good to write all this down now.