Superman is different, I think, because he belongs to Siegel and Shuster. I just did a little searching and found that, prior to Stoker, most vampires were described as bloated and ruddy. I think if your creature goes back before written history, you've got free rein.
This here's a recipe for unpleasantness.
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Laga - Jan 06, 2010 6:25:52 pm PST #11680 of 30001
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.
Frankenbuddha - Jan 06, 2010 6:28:29 pm PST #11681 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Wheee! My Chuck 2.0 discs arrived today and I finally got to see the whole of the season finale. Love Jefster so much. Not to mention "Guys, I know Kung Fu."
Please don't let the network screw season 3 up with "helpful" suggestions.
tiggy - Jan 06, 2010 6:32:04 pm PST #11682 of 30001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore
but I think that making them just powered-up humans who get sad if they don't drink blood
eh? i'm assuming you're referring to Twilight. while i don't agree with a lot of SMeyer's storytelling, that's not something she portrayed.
§ ita § - Jan 06, 2010 6:32:55 pm PST #11683 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
if your creature goes back before written history, you've got free rein.
Free reign? Surely you have some point at which they don't deserve the name anymore.
Laga - Jan 06, 2010 6:33:37 pm PST #11684 of 30001
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.
I agree, tiggy. I thought the plot of New Moon rose from the point of vampires not being able to control their bloodlust.
Surely you have some point at which they don't deserve the name anymore.
yes, I think there needs to be bloodlust. Energy vampires are just silly.
§ ita § - Jan 06, 2010 6:38:23 pm PST #11685 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
i'm assuming you're referring to Twilight. while i don't agree with a lot of SMeyer's storytelling, that's not something she portrayed
It's not specific. I consider her vampires heinously romantic because she bothered to have them sparkle. I don't know Edward's other details.
And I dislike the idea of removing too many weaknesses and savagery. But that happens a lot. At least Joss gave his abstainers a soul or a chip. At least Mitchell turned someone. Moonlight and Forever Knight (IIRC) made it too easy. Angsting isn't enough. Even Stefan Salvatore only gets picturesque bloodlust.
Laga - Jan 06, 2010 6:40:30 pm PST #11686 of 30001
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.
How do you feel about True Blood?
§ ita § - Jan 06, 2010 6:43:08 pm PST #11687 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
How do you feel about True Blood?
Don't know thing one about it. I've at least read plot synopses of Twilight. I'm assuming Edward doesn't kill for his blood, otherwise he wouldn't be worthy of our heroine--what's his deal?
sumi - Jan 06, 2010 6:47:35 pm PST #11688 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!
Edward eats animals.
sumi - Jan 06, 2010 6:48:26 pm PST #11689 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!
(OOoh, like the non-human killing vammpires in Supernatural - and he lives in a colony of animal-blood non-human killing vampires too.)