I keep flashing on finding Mulder strapped to that alien chair with his face all stretched out screaming for Scully.

Sorry, what? I shouldn't be giggling every time I see Dean in hell? Blame Chris Carter.

For some reason, I had thought that in the end, when The-Body-That-Was-Ruby's-Host say's "stop!", I thought that was Ruby, re-inhabiting her host-body. I thought maybe Lilith had been lying about Ruby being far far away and that she had merely temporarily smothered Ruby inside that body.

That was Lilith scared out of her wits and then fleeing the scene? Huh.

Oh, man, all the chin and lip wibbles going on in this ep are killing me!

It's weird, I kind knew that, if they did this final right, Dean would be dead, so his death didn't have the OMGWTF?! impact, and I think it was better (storytelling-wise) for that. We've had the wailing and gnashing of teeth. This ep had a sort of inevitable impending doom that really played well in it's structure and pacing. And so it got to be rid of the usual tropes involved in the "possibility" of a major character's death. Up to and including the ass-pully save at the eleventh hour.

For some reason, I had thought that in the end, when The-Body-That-Was-Ruby's-Host say's "stop!", I thought that was Ruby, re-inhabiting her host-body. I thought maybe Lilith had been lying about Ruby being far far away and that she had merely temporarily smothered Ruby inside that body.

That's the read I had too.

That was Lilith scared out of her wits and then fleeing the scene? Huh.

See, I would have expected Lilith to look different than just black smoke. Although I guess she's supposed to be a regular demon. Or something. We don't really know what her damn deal is.

I really believe that's supposed to be Hell Dean's in, because nobody in the show has ever mentioned the possibility of Purgatory or Limbo. And they do asspulls, sure, but I suspect not that one.

Lilith evicted Ruby from the blonde body, sending Ruby far away (probably to Hell, I guess), and now that Lilith's gone, the body will rot. Since it's dead: Bobby shot Ruby the first time he met her, when she showed up to help him fix the Colt. Which is now with Lilith, right?

So, yeah, unless S4 starts right where S3 ended, we're not going to see Katie Cassidy again. I didn't mind her much, but I would have been interested to see the character played by an actress with more presence. (I.e., someone who didn't look 18.)

We don't really know what her damn deal is.

So far as we know to date, Lilith's merely a more powerful demon, if presumably one who started as a child who went to hell. Although I'm not sure about that: her preference for little-girl bodies may not reflect her status when she died.

I did like the fact that she refused to monologue about her evil plan. OTOH it probably means the writers don't know what that plan is.

Someone here (I think?) mentioned the whole "wanting the same story twenty-six times" thing as a reason to believe Lilith is a child, somehow, and I believe that. I mean, for me personally having cake every day would be a great thing, but hearing the same story over and over? Asking to play on the swings? For a really twisted demon who wanted a kick out of playing in a kid's body, that might be amusing for a day or two, but for an "adult" demon? Probably not so much.

I did like the fact that she refused to monologue about her evil plan. OTOH it probably means the writers don't know what that plan is.

Heh. Exactly this.

That was me, Amy. Between that and her enjoying being in a growed up body and acting all girl-crushy on Sam just struck me as very juvenile. I don't think it's just a demon playing at being child-like/immature. I think the demon was born out of a child who was so bad that child went to hell. The very worst kind of evil. I totally believe in original sin and that it's not until abstract thought and reasoning are taught to us that we possess the capabilities of morality, hence my long-held belief that Children Are Evil.

Um, personal issues, yes, but I still think that Lilith was born as a demon out of a human child's soul.

I was actually wondering if the girl in the bedtime story was Lilith, following the fairy tales are real theory we saw earlier in the season (and in Buffy, and elsewhere).

Heh, I was wondering if Lilith was the dragon in the story and it didn't exactly go the way we would expect.

I think the demon was born out of a child who was so bad that child went to hell.

There's a very Bad Seed vibe about her, yes.

I was actually wondering if the girl in the bedtime story was Lilith, following the fairy tales are real theory we saw earlier in the season (and in Buffy, and elsewhere).

Also interesting! And with -t's theory, really interesting!

For a really twisted demon who wanted a kick out of playing in a kid's body, that might be amusing for a day or two, but for an "adult" demon? Probably not so much.

This was my thought until she inhabited Ruby, then her behavior was much more on the "adult" demon side. Made my head spin.

My sister tells a story of reading "Goodnight Moon" to her daughter, and just doing it again so long as her daughter still wanted to hear it: they got to 18 before my sister gave up.

I was very worried Lilith was going to ask for "Goodnight Moon".