Wash: Well, I wash my hands of it. It's a hopeless case. I'll read a nice poem at the funeral. Something with imagery. Zoe: You could lock the door and keep the power-hungry maniac at bay. Wash: Oh, no, I'm starting to like this poetry idea now. Here lies my beloved Zoe, my autumn flower, somewhat less attractive now she's all corpsified and gross...

'Shindig'


Supernatural 1: Saving People, Hunting Things - the Family Business  

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Polter-Cow - May 16, 2008 4:23:48 pm PDT #7456 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

For some reason, I had thought that in the end, when The-Body-That-Was-Ruby's-Host say's "stop!", I thought that was Ruby, re-inhabiting her host-body. I thought maybe Lilith had been lying about Ruby being far far away and that she had merely temporarily smothered Ruby inside that body.

That's the read I had too.

That was Lilith scared out of her wits and then fleeing the scene? Huh.

See, I would have expected Lilith to look different than just black smoke. Although I guess she's supposed to be a regular demon. Or something. We don't really know what her damn deal is.


Consuela - May 16, 2008 5:23:31 pm PDT #7457 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I really believe that's supposed to be Hell Dean's in, because nobody in the show has ever mentioned the possibility of Purgatory or Limbo. And they do asspulls, sure, but I suspect not that one.

Lilith evicted Ruby from the blonde body, sending Ruby far away (probably to Hell, I guess), and now that Lilith's gone, the body will rot. Since it's dead: Bobby shot Ruby the first time he met her, when she showed up to help him fix the Colt. Which is now with Lilith, right?

So, yeah, unless S4 starts right where S3 ended, we're not going to see Katie Cassidy again. I didn't mind her much, but I would have been interested to see the character played by an actress with more presence. (I.e., someone who didn't look 18.)

We don't really know what her damn deal is.

So far as we know to date, Lilith's merely a more powerful demon, if presumably one who started as a child who went to hell. Although I'm not sure about that: her preference for little-girl bodies may not reflect her status when she died.

I did like the fact that she refused to monologue about her evil plan. OTOH it probably means the writers don't know what that plan is.


Amy - May 16, 2008 5:58:08 pm PDT #7458 of 10002
Because books.

Someone here (I think?) mentioned the whole "wanting the same story twenty-six times" thing as a reason to believe Lilith is a child, somehow, and I believe that. I mean, for me personally having cake every day would be a great thing, but hearing the same story over and over? Asking to play on the swings? For a really twisted demon who wanted a kick out of playing in a kid's body, that might be amusing for a day or two, but for an "adult" demon? Probably not so much.

I did like the fact that she refused to monologue about her evil plan. OTOH it probably means the writers don't know what that plan is.

Heh. Exactly this.


Juliebird - May 16, 2008 6:06:04 pm PDT #7459 of 10002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

That was me, Amy. Between that and her enjoying being in a growed up body and acting all girl-crushy on Sam just struck me as very juvenile. I don't think it's just a demon playing at being child-like/immature. I think the demon was born out of a child who was so bad that child went to hell. The very worst kind of evil. I totally believe in original sin and that it's not until abstract thought and reasoning are taught to us that we possess the capabilities of morality, hence my long-held belief that Children Are Evil.

Um, personal issues, yes, but I still think that Lilith was born as a demon out of a human child's soul.


Lee - May 16, 2008 6:23:04 pm PDT #7460 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I was actually wondering if the girl in the bedtime story was Lilith, following the fairy tales are real theory we saw earlier in the season (and in Buffy, and elsewhere).


-t - May 16, 2008 6:29:47 pm PDT #7461 of 10002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Heh, I was wondering if Lilith was the dragon in the story and it didn't exactly go the way we would expect.


Amy - May 16, 2008 6:53:46 pm PDT #7462 of 10002
Because books.

I think the demon was born out of a child who was so bad that child went to hell.

There's a very Bad Seed vibe about her, yes.

I was actually wondering if the girl in the bedtime story was Lilith, following the fairy tales are real theory we saw earlier in the season (and in Buffy, and elsewhere).

Also interesting! And with -t's theory, really interesting!


SuziQ - May 16, 2008 7:10:18 pm PDT #7463 of 10002
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

For a really twisted demon who wanted a kick out of playing in a kid's body, that might be amusing for a day or two, but for an "adult" demon? Probably not so much.

This was my thought until she inhabited Ruby, then her behavior was much more on the "adult" demon side. Made my head spin.


Consuela - May 16, 2008 7:13:40 pm PDT #7464 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

My sister tells a story of reading "Goodnight Moon" to her daughter, and just doing it again so long as her daughter still wanted to hear it: they got to 18 before my sister gave up.

I was very worried Lilith was going to ask for "Goodnight Moon".


Amy - May 16, 2008 7:13:52 pm PDT #7465 of 10002
Because books.

I thought so, too, Suzi! At first it was still very childlike, and then with Sam she got a bit more grown up. But then when she opened the door for the hellhounds, it was back to childlike again.

I think it may have been the delivery and the simple fact of an adult speaking the lines, though -- I want to go back and listen to the actual dialogue.