I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly is a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.

Early ,'Objects In Space'


Supernatural 1: Saving People, Hunting Things - the Family Business  

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Juliebird - May 16, 2008 6:06:04 pm PDT #7459 of 10002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

That was me, Amy. Between that and her enjoying being in a growed up body and acting all girl-crushy on Sam just struck me as very juvenile. I don't think it's just a demon playing at being child-like/immature. I think the demon was born out of a child who was so bad that child went to hell. The very worst kind of evil. I totally believe in original sin and that it's not until abstract thought and reasoning are taught to us that we possess the capabilities of morality, hence my long-held belief that Children Are Evil.

Um, personal issues, yes, but I still think that Lilith was born as a demon out of a human child's soul.


Lee - May 16, 2008 6:23:04 pm PDT #7460 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I was actually wondering if the girl in the bedtime story was Lilith, following the fairy tales are real theory we saw earlier in the season (and in Buffy, and elsewhere).


-t - May 16, 2008 6:29:47 pm PDT #7461 of 10002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Heh, I was wondering if Lilith was the dragon in the story and it didn't exactly go the way we would expect.


Amy - May 16, 2008 6:53:46 pm PDT #7462 of 10002
Because books.

I think the demon was born out of a child who was so bad that child went to hell.

There's a very Bad Seed vibe about her, yes.

I was actually wondering if the girl in the bedtime story was Lilith, following the fairy tales are real theory we saw earlier in the season (and in Buffy, and elsewhere).

Also interesting! And with -t's theory, really interesting!


SuziQ - May 16, 2008 7:10:18 pm PDT #7463 of 10002
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

For a really twisted demon who wanted a kick out of playing in a kid's body, that might be amusing for a day or two, but for an "adult" demon? Probably not so much.

This was my thought until she inhabited Ruby, then her behavior was much more on the "adult" demon side. Made my head spin.


Consuela - May 16, 2008 7:13:40 pm PDT #7464 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

My sister tells a story of reading "Goodnight Moon" to her daughter, and just doing it again so long as her daughter still wanted to hear it: they got to 18 before my sister gave up.

I was very worried Lilith was going to ask for "Goodnight Moon".


Amy - May 16, 2008 7:13:52 pm PDT #7465 of 10002
Because books.

I thought so, too, Suzi! At first it was still very childlike, and then with Sam she got a bit more grown up. But then when she opened the door for the hellhounds, it was back to childlike again.

I think it may have been the delivery and the simple fact of an adult speaking the lines, though -- I want to go back and listen to the actual dialogue.


Amy - May 16, 2008 7:14:50 pm PDT #7466 of 10002
Because books.

"Goodnight stars, goodnight air. Goodnight noises everywhere."

God, I used to be able to recite that in my sleep. As well as most of the Boynton oeuvre.


SuziQ - May 16, 2008 7:33:51 pm PDT #7467 of 10002
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

the simple fact of an adult speaking the lines,

Even without the words, her kissing Sam was much more than a childish peck. Ok, it wasn't crossroads demon tonsil hockey, but still, not something I'd picture a child that age doing.


beth b - May 16, 2008 7:59:43 pm PDT #7468 of 10002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I guess I am assume that even though she is a child/demon -- she hasn't stopped learning about the world. so it didn't seem overly adult. She looked like someone that was imitating what adults did -- esp. the surprised "your lips are soft" line.

and I liked the picture of hell we got . Helpless, pain, alone, screaming for your loved ones. makes more sense then meeting your friends in hell.