Hermanos! The devil has built a robot!

Numero Cinco ,'The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


Liese S. - Oct 06, 2008 9:12:38 am PDT #1479 of 11998
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I thought it was interesting, because as recently as last episode, I'd thought, she still hasn't stopped dressing like a child. But I suppose that sort of thing takes time, and I'm glad to see her coming into her own. She's won Don over, but she still doesn't have the respect of her coworkers. But I hope they're starting to see that they need to pay attention to what she's doing.

I agree about this being a set-up episode. Then I had a startling thought about what we might be being set up for... Is Pete going to adopt Peggy's baby, his own son?

I did like the party scene. Every one in that room having their own private reaction to Harry's situation. Everyone in their own worlds.

And the last bit of cinematography, the sun washing across Don's face in the airplane. Lovely and contemplative.


DavidS - Oct 06, 2008 9:19:54 am PDT #1480 of 11998
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

She's won Don over, but she still doesn't have the respect of her coworkers.

There was a scene where Duck deferred to her recently, and coupled with Don snarling at the fratboys to read her material - you get the sense of Peggy's rise in the firm.


Barb - Oct 06, 2008 9:23:30 am PDT #1481 of 11998
“Not dead yet!”

coupled with Don snarling at the fratboys to read her material

That's a perfect description of that moment.


SailAweigh - Oct 06, 2008 10:17:08 am PDT #1482 of 11998
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Then I had a startling thought about what we might be being set up for... Is Pete going to adopt Peggy's baby, his own son?

I thought about that, but I wonder, too, what kind of arrangement Peggy and her sister have WRT that same issue. Has her sister adopted the boy or did they do some hanky-panky with the birth certificate to make it seem like he's the sister's son? (I can not, for the life of me, think what her name is supposed to be. I keep thinking of her as the housekeeper in Wonderfalls.) It will be interesting to keep an eye out on that. We don't have that many episodes left, do we, to wrap it all up? I really wish they'd do a 22 episode season with this one. I feel like they have to gloss over to much in order to account for all the time between episodes. Although, that seems to be what Weiner likes.


Vortex - Oct 06, 2008 10:25:34 am PDT #1483 of 11998
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

She's won Don over, but she still doesn't have the respect of her coworkers.

I think that Don respects her skills, but doesn't respect her. In the meeting, Don continually referred to Peggy as "her" and "she", not by name. I don't know why I noticed that, but it seemed to make her like more of an object, not a member of the team.


DavidS - Oct 06, 2008 10:36:31 am PDT #1484 of 11998
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I think that Don respects her skills, but doesn't respect her. In the meeting, Don continually referred to Peggy as "her" and "she", not by name. I don't know why I noticed that, but it seemed to make her like more of an object, not a member of the team.

I think there's a disconnect. When he threatened to send Peggy to California it had the air of an implied absurdity meant to insult them. Like it was a slightly outrageous and shaming notion that he'd send a woman in their place.

At the same time, he does respect her work and values it. Peggy also got credit for saving the pitch after Freddy Rumson pissed himself.

So, I think they're underscoring a prefeminist divide. It's still unimaginable to think of a woman seriously in those leadership roles even when they know she's more talented and competent than her male peers.


SailAweigh - Oct 06, 2008 10:49:20 am PDT #1485 of 11998
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I think it's a bit of thinking of her as a dog that can walk. You don't question that it can with a little training and then you profit from it as much you can.


Hayden - Oct 06, 2008 11:09:13 am PDT #1486 of 11998
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I can not, for the life of me, think what her name is supposed to be.

Anita, isn't it?


lisah - Oct 06, 2008 11:14:39 am PDT #1487 of 11998
Punishingly Intricate

Oh! What about all the minor women characters w/ rhyming names?? What does that mean? Or is it just a joke?

Trudy, Judy, Trooby? (or whatever Betty's SiL's name is)

I may have noticed it before but I feel like it was highlighted last night.


SailAweigh - Oct 06, 2008 11:37:23 am PDT #1488 of 11998
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

SiL was Judy.