Was that the same actress playing Glen's mom?

She looked different, didn't she? I thought it was just the hair and makeup, but now I'm not sure.

Poor ol' Glenn. He's just going to come back creepier every two years and be a full on psycho menace stalker-rapist by 1968.

Yeah, this ep left me feeling kind of meh. I felt it was one of the weakest episodes from a writing standpoint. The only reason they brought Glenn back was to ultimately give Betty the one confidante who might have a prayer of understanding. The show's usually more subtle with things like that-- although I will admit to a pang when she confided that the kids were wondering what was suddenly making them more special since Don was taking them out to dinners and such.

And maybe I was just tired, but Pete and Peggy's conversation seemed really bizarre and again, like the only point of it was for Peggy to say, "It's hard for everyone, Pete." I'll have to go back and rewatch.

Kinsey's a pretentious ass. Nothing new there.

And Roger really is a clueless dolt. I get this uneasy feeling that they're setting Joan and Don up for something.

I don't get that feeling from Joan and Don. What I do get is that Joan is going to experience greater tension between work and private life and I think Don might factor into that somewhat.

Peggy accidentally fell into it with Don, maybe Joan will too if she works for him long enough.

Oh, I felt like this ep was disjointed - like they cut some scenes from other episodes and kind of tossed them in here. I am not sure this makes a lot of sense, but that's the feeling I got.

Oh, I felt like this ep was disjointed - like they cut some scenes from other episodes and kind of tossed them in here. I am not sure this makes a lot of sense, but that's the feeling I got.

I got that same disjointed feeling. This episode had three writers and for the first time that I can recall, you could really tell there were multiple writers. And like I said, I felt that scenes were written with the obvious purpose of getting us from point A to point B, but without really advancing the story otherwise.

I felt like it was just setting us up for stuff down the line. And, yeah, very disjointed. Also, I'm getting a little tired of January Jones' line readings. She always sounds so stiff and flat. She's got one of those baby voices (or nearly) that drives me nuts. Cristina Hendricks has the same voice, but at least she can act and you forget the voice.

I don't mind when they leave us with random scenes that seem to dangle-- like that one short scene flashback to Don as a car salesman and that woman busting him for not really being Don Draper. That's one of those things that's quite liable to pop up in a really unexpected fashion, much like the scene itself was unexpected.

If this ep was indeed setting us up for stuff down the line (which I don't doubt, because it's what they do), they were far clumsier about it than I've become accustomed to with this series.

And maybe I was just tired, but Pete and Peggy's conversation seemed really bizarre and again, like the only point of it was for Peggy to say, "It's hard for everyone, Pete." I'll have to go back and rewatch.

I think that point of that scene was to show us that Peggy wasn't into Pete anymore, that she had matured. She was wearing a very adult outfit (down to hat and gloves), and Pete was very maudlin and needy. Last year, she would have comforted him, and they would have ended up in bed. Now, she just says that everyone has it hard (with the implied "get over it")

She was wearing a very adult outfit (down to hat and gloves)

I LOVED her dress.

This felt like an interim episode to me.

She was wearing a very adult outfit (down to hat and gloves)

She looked very Jackie-- the pillbox hat, esp. looked wonderful on her.

That was the first time I thought, "damn she looks good." And I agree that that scene was about showing that she's over him.