We die horribly and painfully, you go to hell and I spend eternity in the arms of baby Jesus.

Gunn ,'Not Fade Away'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


erikaj - Aug 31, 2008 9:05:54 pm PDT #1273 of 11998
Always Anti-fascist!

Yeah, wrod.Women still kinda complain about that thing that Peggy went through in this episode. You know, guys doing business in guy-places and not inviting the womenfolk. Although it's better than that I think. What was going on with Don? Besides being possessive of Betty's cute little form. Did the"Servicemen stand," thing make him think of something he buried?


DavidS - Aug 31, 2008 9:21:37 pm PDT #1274 of 11998
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Hey! Marti Noxon is listed in the opening credits as a consulting producer. I didn't know that.


DavidS - Aug 31, 2008 10:15:38 pm PDT #1275 of 11998
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

...and then there's a bondage scene. That has Marti's touch.


Sue - Sep 01, 2008 3:16:38 am PDT #1276 of 11998
hip deep in pie

Marti Noxon is listed in the opening credits as a consulting producer.

I think she just came on board for season 2. I remember reading something about it this summer.


Wolfram - Sep 01, 2008 4:57:30 am PDT #1277 of 11998
Visilurking

Did the"Servicemen stand," thing make him think of something he buried?

My impression was he felt uncomfortable because, although he did serve, it was as Dick Whitman not as Don Draper, so it reminded him that he's a fraud (at least in his own mind), and even his wife and kids only know the lie.


megan walker - Sep 01, 2008 6:32:53 am PDT #1278 of 11998
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

That was so mean. Poor doggie.

I don't even like animals and I felt bad for that dog. Poor Chauncey. Perfect preppy dog name too. The WASP references sure were out in force this episode: the duck paraphernalia, St. Pauls, Fishers, etc. Classic.


quester - Sep 01, 2008 6:36:34 am PDT #1279 of 11998
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

That last moment with Don and his daughter in the bathroom was really chilling and beautifully played. I'm never sure what is going on in his head but there was a profound...something happening there!


Liese S. - Sep 01, 2008 6:37:55 am PDT #1280 of 11998
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

The thing with Peggy is that it's always such a balancing act. Joan is right in that Peggy dresses and speaks like a little girl and wants to be treated like a man. I'm glad that whatshername told Peggy not to try to be a man, because I think she would have been vulnerable to that.

But still, when she dressed up and turned up at the club, that took nerve. But then she didn't demand to be treated as an equal; she sat on the client's lap. She was being treated as a woman, but not as a businesswoman. Small steps, I guess.

I missed Duck's intro to the show, I think. I've noticed that I tend to ignore any time he's on the screen. So I was confused with the turning out of the dog. Of course, I was watching it with my dog asleep on my lap, so it's unforgivable.

What else? Oh, the bondage. Kinda disappointing bondage. At least that conversation explains her strong coming on to him, and the motive was sexual originally, not business. Why is Don surprised he has a reputation? He hasn't spent a day on this show without a mistress, one would imagine he hasn't in a long time.


SailAweigh - Sep 01, 2008 6:55:12 am PDT #1281 of 11998
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I think Don suffers much from the Madonna/whore complex. Betty only wears fluffy, cute, girly clothes (his reaction to the swimsuit), his wife must be Ceasar's wife for him to maintain the Don Draper persona. But he beds worldly, furprint wearing women, because that's what he really wants. I think the only woman that was a true anomaly for him was Rachel.


sumi - Sep 01, 2008 8:26:16 am PDT #1282 of 11998
Art Crawl!!!

I was so sad for Chauncey. He did not deserve that and they cast an older IS with a cute graying face too. (Good casting - you could imagine Duck and family picking up a puppy when they were all about a decade younger and much happier.)

I think that Peggy doesn't really know how to act as a grown up business woman so she's still testing the waters.