Sometimes I miss having powers... Oh. Oh! I know what this is! This is peer pressure! Any second now you're gonna make me smoke tobacco and--and have drugs!

Anya ,'Showtime'


Natter Area 51: The Truthiness Is in Here  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


JZ - May 27, 2007 6:03:48 am PDT #9503 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Oh, poor Senor Sock, and poor you too, tommy. It is awful to see small beloved creatures suffering -- they don't understand and you can't explain, and you have to comfort them while you're being broken into pieces inside.

Apropos of last night's discussion, I must note a couple of things: I got involved with Hec very much against my own better judgment and while ignoring several giant red flags I had long ago set up for myself, telling myself it'd be okay because I was going in knowing it had no future and I was continuing to see other people looking for a better long-term prospect. I'm still utterly shocked at how things turn out, and I certainly don't intend to recommend my method of spouse-finding to Matilda, but it did turn out that all the red flags that scared the shit out of me turned out to be things that went away (or, rather, things that Hec discarded, with some assistance from Teppy and amych).

The second thing is that the Republican red flag keeps making me giggle. The fellow immediately before Hec was in fact a Republican, a fact which he hid from me for several weeks (didn't lie, which would've been a bigger red flag, just avoided the subject) because he knew my political leanings and was afraid I'd never go out with him if I knew. And as it turned out there were lots of reasons for me not to date him and lots of reasons for me to break up with him, and his Republicanism was exactly none of them. Plenty of issues reared their ugly heads during the four months we were together, but not one of them was related to politics and not one of them was anything immediately visible; it was all stuff that I had to get to really know him to find out. My red flag list turned out to be totally useless.

Red flags are a damn good, self-protective idea, but not all red flags are permanent and not all matter as much WRT any one individual as they seem to when you're applying them to an entire class of people. And it sucks because of the potential for huge pain, but sometimes the only way to determine just how red a red flag is is to let yourself get to know the flagger. Damn teh humans and their infinite variety of personalities and circumstances and backstories that conspire to frustrate all clean, crystal-clear list-making and categorizing.


beekaytee - May 27, 2007 6:17:20 am PDT #9504 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

My husband was 15 years my senior, married, father of three and a smoker when we met. The very definition of not-my-type. 2 years later, we were married and it was possibly the greatest gift of my entire gift-laden life.

That being said, I tend to adhere to something I once heard Oprah say,"When someone tells you who they are early on...believe them.

JZ makes an important point...it isn't generally the social-order labels we use, like political affiliations, that end up being the problem.

When someone says,"Oh, people say I'm _____." THAT is the thing that will end up being problematic.

Fela is perfect for me on paper. Compatibility on all those social labels (religion, politics like whoa, geekdom, dog lover, even perfect sex!) but in the very beginning, he told me that he had attachment issues, was 'oblivious' and believed he had something wrong with his brain.

THOSE things ended up superceding stripes that might have changed. Hey, even Senators can switch political parties, but self-doubt and habits we cling too? Those things take cosmic dynamite to change, if they ever do.


lori - May 27, 2007 6:47:37 am PDT #9505 of 10001

Good luck with Senor Sock, tommyrot, however it may go.

Had two fun photo ops yesterday: Kat holding Noah, and dorkfest at Star Wars Celebration IV.

We have friends working this event, covering EVERYTHING - here's the official blog photostream and the official blog.


Steph L. - May 27, 2007 6:57:15 am PDT #9506 of 10001
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

Star Wars Celebration IV.

I *love* the Darth Vader helmets!!!


Tom Scola - May 27, 2007 6:57:23 am PDT #9507 of 10001
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

I'm very sorry to hear about Señor Sock, tommyrot.


lori - May 27, 2007 7:00:12 am PDT #9508 of 10001

The Vader helmets were really really cool. Here's more on The Vader Project.


tommyrot - May 27, 2007 7:05:20 am PDT #9509 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Thanks for all the kitty well-wishes. I feel like I'm just biding my time until the afternoon when I'll call the hospital again.

Loved the Star Wars pictures. I'm not sure which I liked more - the little girl in glasses and Leia costume, or the somewhat heavy guy in the Leia slave bikini costume.


beekaytee - May 27, 2007 7:10:30 am PDT #9510 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

the little girl in glasses

This was my fave!


Zenkitty - May 27, 2007 7:13:07 am PDT #9511 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I kind of agree with everybody. Bottom line as I see it: Wedding ring as recently as 2 weeks ago? Red flag. Do not fuck. Chat up, maybe. Keep on hold pending further info. Do not give key to apartment or cell phone number.

In general: Romance is worth the risk of heartache. It's not worth the risk of some psycho stalking you. You've just got to take enough time to figure out which one will likely result if the relationship doesn't work out. If your gut sends danger signals, listen.

Also, you'll never know what's really going on until you meet the ex. She might be the psycho.

For myself, I had to learn not only where I needed to put some boundaries, but where I could push them and where I should not. I think everyone has to decide/learn those things themselves, and no one's experience with that will be exactly the same as anyone else's.

Of course, I'm the person who moved from Virginia to New Jersey to move in with a guy I'd only spent one weekend with before. Perhaps I'm no help either. The relationship lasted for two years, ended painfully, and we ended up remaining good friends. Ultimately a win/win. He took a chance on me, too. Was probably the first real risk he ever took.


Zenkitty - May 27, 2007 7:13:51 am PDT #9512 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

and, meara:

Aw, tommy, so sorry about Senor! I hope they figure out what's wrong and he gets better soon!

Yay, ita, eating!

Yay babies in onesies! So amazing, they are.

Although I'm not a "baby" person, I find holding babies to be very relaxing. You know, until they poo.

Loving the Star Wars Celebration photos.

You can't fix stupid.

This has become my mantra.

cosmic dynamite

I love this phrase. May I use it?