I'm trying to find words to separate this from Daddy's reaction to Cass's two kills

Particularly the first one, when she was a wee young'un and, thanks to Cain's training, didn't understand that what she was doing was wrong. And yet Bruce was appalled that she would have done such a thing. "Appalled" isn't exactly the right word, actually. Kind of a combination of "appalled" and "crushed."

I file that under Cass = Bruce's blind spot = he wants to see her as perfect, even if he doesn't think that consciously.

Oooh -- I posted this in my LJ, but I love it so much that I'm re-posting it here: In TT #18, remember the gravestones? How one said "Carrie Kelly"? I have this theory that Carrie Kelly was Robin to Tim's Batman.

Was Carrie Kelly only in DKR? I don't seem to find reference to her in the canonical Robin hierarchy.

Was Carrie Kelly only in DKR? I don't seem to find reference to her in the canonical Robin hierarchy.

AFAIK, only DKR.

Which is why I like my theory. Pulling her from AU-ish-ness into my theoretical canon. Well, not canon; future-canon, which is more or less AU as well.

Layers upon layers of AU! The possibilities are dizzying!

Also, I like Plei's defense of Blockbuster angst vs. Joker angst.

but I'm working hard on blanking most of War Games from my mind.

And we all thought it was going to be woo. I still haven't read it. It's languishing on my hard drive.

OK, I found this:

"Kent was not Superman's true identity... Clark Kent was the fiction... the put-on... The truth may be that Kent existed not for the purposes of the story but for the reader. He is Superman's opinion of the rest of us, a pointed caricature of what we... were really like. His fake identity was our real one. That's why we loved him so."

- Jules Feiffer, The Great Comic Book Heroes, 1965

a pointed caricature of what we... were really like

He may have been in 1965, but do you really feel he is now?

Well, my point (which I didn't actually state there) is just that, that Bill (who is, as he said, all about the Old School) was expounding a point that is nearly 40 years old.

As for what I think myself, well, I haven't read enough Superman in, like, ever, to really say. The character never really interested me.

Bill (who is, as he said, all about the Old School) was expounding a point that is nearly 40 years old

The earth being flat is also an old point. But we have more data now, so it's not a good one.

It is possible that Bill was trying to make a point that was only valid before the birth of the person he was talking to. That could be a character point, in fact.

I just don't think it's a good one.