Well, personally, I kind of want to slay the dragon.

Angel ,'Not Fade Away'


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Kate P. - Nov 20, 2007 4:06:19 pm PST #3136 of 5028
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Maybe Mohinder and not the Company is behind HRG's reanimation?

I was just coming here to post that! I hope this turns out to be the case, not least because I still don't really understand Mohinder's motivations if that isn't what happened.


Juliebird - Nov 20, 2007 4:20:17 pm PST #3137 of 5028
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

because I still don't really understand Mohinder's motivations if that isn't what happened.

He seemed really invested in saving Nikki, which just doesn't make sense to me. I mean, okay, he was told that HRG (Noah still sounds funny) killed his mentor, so perhaps it shook him that Noah was capable of this, but after what Bob and Elle were planning to do, I don't see that he was really actively defending them as people/innocents. And I just don't get him being capable of murder on Nikki's behalf. I mean, if he's so principled that he doesn't believe that a near stranger should die of a virus, and if he's so principled that he doesn't believe that people like Elle and Bob should be murdered when they were very clear that they were going to assassinate Noah (or did I miss something?)... in both those instances being a pacifist and not shooting Noah would seem the logical outcome.

And I still don't get why the situation came to the head that it did. Maybe they (the writers) didn't explain themselves clear enough. I get the whole "dad defending his daughter", but... it's all too confusing with the lies and possible unreliable character narrative and character misunderstandings (as in, the characters don't know what the hell is going on and acting on assumptions and bad information. When it comes to that stuff, I can't keep up.)

I think in the end it really does just come down to Mohinder being dumber than a dumb thing.

I mean, I would love love if there was some trick up his sleeve, some prearranged "I'm going to kill you to really bring down the Company", but that just seems really out there to me, especially given the exchange in the car between Mohinder and Noah. There was nobody around to witness that scene of distrust and betrayal, which to me meant it was real.


Wolfram - Nov 20, 2007 4:30:29 pm PST #3138 of 5028
Visilurking

I am now hoping that Mohinder changed the game and that's what he was trying to tell Noah in the car.


Juliebird - Nov 20, 2007 4:32:19 pm PST #3139 of 5028
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I'll have to rewatch to see if there really is any hope that Mohinder has something up his sleeve. Whether or not HRG is in on this "great" plan.


DCJensen - Nov 20, 2007 6:27:42 pm PST #3140 of 5028
All is well that ends in pizza.

Maybe the gun was modified with slow motion bullets.

"Hey, it's a comic book."

Either way, it's gotta be pretty damn painful to have your eye shot out.


Juliebird - Nov 20, 2007 11:29:29 pm PST #3141 of 5028
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

In other pov's, that was a really really sweet death scene with full-on comic-book stylings. Jack Coleman and the show should be proud.


Stephanie - Nov 20, 2007 11:35:13 pm PST #3142 of 5028
Trust my rage

I love the idea that Mohinder double crossed the company because he's been extra dumb lately and that's saying a lot.


Miracleman - Nov 21, 2007 7:12:40 am PST #3143 of 5028
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

My secret vote is Adam, though I can't see how he'd pull it off.

Oh, I don't know. He managed to get to Ireland and give Peter a whole bunch of stuff, didn't he? Who knows what he's been doing between escaping the Company and when Peter got his memories back? Aside from killing Sulu, that is.

As to whether or not Noah was really dead...I think he was dead dead deadski, but...my uncle was shot in the head and lost an eye and he's still kicking. With no massive brain damage, either. So it's entirely possible.


Juliebird - Nov 21, 2007 7:18:19 am PST #3144 of 5028
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I'm in the deadski camp for Noah. Based on the fact that they gave him those cloudy cataracts on his eye(s).


victor infante - Nov 21, 2007 7:27:27 am PST #3145 of 5028
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

He managed to get to Ireland and give Peter a whole bunch of stuff, didn't he?

That was stuff Peter had on him when he was Haitianed and locked in a crate. Adam didn't know where Peter was for that time.