I swear, one of these times, you're gonna wake up in a coma.

Cordelia ,'Showtime'


Spike's Bitches 34: They're All Slime and Antlers  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


§ ita § - Jan 17, 2007 12:09:22 pm PST #1434 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

How are you defining badly? What makes a person a sub-par parent? My brother's a bad parent. He never (or rarely) sees his kid, and flakes on commitments beyond sending money to the account. He's not abusive, he's just not around.

I'd go with that as a bad parent--it's probably the easiest way to not be doing the job well.

We all come up with neuroses--we're human. But I've seen people where everything screams that they'd be happier childless, and do more good childless, but they're not and they have kids they don't know how to nurture, and at whom they throw money instead of affection, and try and avoid making parenting decisions as much as possible.

Now, I know parents who realise this in themselves and install a different nurturer in their children's lives. That's recognising and addressing a shortcoming, and in the end, the kids'll probably be okay for it. Different maybe, but okay.

But not all of them do that.


juliana - Jan 17, 2007 12:14:20 pm PST #1435 of 10001
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

And clips...check it out, I have a clip file...

erika, that's awesome. And the thing about them being lucky to have you? Totally true.

Hrm. Perhaps brakes are not needed for meara, but a line in the sand that can be re-assessed in a few months?

SO TIRED. Please to let me go home now.


Steph L. - Jan 17, 2007 12:17:05 pm PST #1436 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I have some discomfort with calling childlessness "a life of one's own."

Well, as you noted, Robin, it's a semantic thing. I admit that I was using it as sloppy shorthand for "a life that is unencumbered by having, raising, and caring for one's own offspring." That's all I meant.

I didn't mean that parents don't have their own lives; and I don't mean that non-parents have lives that are totally unencumbered by any external demand.

I apologize for my sloppy shorthand semantics. I didn't mean to offend parents or non-parents; all of your lives are your own and equally valid.


Aims - Jan 17, 2007 12:19:06 pm PST #1437 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Steph, I, for one, was not offended in the least. If it matters, what with me being a breeder and all.

t winks

I love being a mom. I would hope that noone thought less of me for loving being a mom. I would never think less of anyone for not wanting to be a parent. It just means that you are the person I come to when I have no money.


meara - Jan 17, 2007 12:20:34 pm PST #1438 of 10001

Heh. I think I'm just worried about getting my heart broken. Which of course, is impossible to predict/prevent(in a sane way)/etc.

Stupid realtionship crap.


erikaj - Jan 17, 2007 12:23:10 pm PST #1439 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

I'm completely glad about it...especially when I think about how I worried about that starting out...I wish I had thought in terms of doing it piece by piece cause that's how it happened. Bird by bird, you might say. And I have references beyond the One Prof Who Doesn't Think I'm A Mental Patient, as in college.(My nerves were...not that strong, in school. I still feel bad about that, even thinking about all the demands I had on them.)


Scrappy - Jan 17, 2007 12:23:21 pm PST #1440 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Teppy--I knew as an editrix, you'd understrand that it was merely semantic for me! I knew you didn't mean it the way I took it. It is a phrase I have heard others use (and mean) so I thought it was worth bringing up.


Pix - Jan 17, 2007 12:26:58 pm PST #1441 of 10001
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

I apologize for my sloppy shorthand semantics. I didn't mean to offend parents or non-parents; all of your lives are your own and equally valid.

Teppy, I didn't even know that Robin was responding to you (I had to skim a bit since I'm still at work). I was responding to the topic in general, not your comment. No worries on my end!


Steph L. - Jan 17, 2007 12:30:26 pm PST #1442 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Okay; I was just afraid, between misinterpreting David's earlier post, and my sloppy shorthand, that I was coming off as even more of a dick than usual and managing to offend everyone in one fell swoop.


Nora Deirdre - Jan 17, 2007 12:33:17 pm PST #1443 of 10001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

I love being a mom. I would hope that noone thought less of me for loving being a mom. I would never think less of anyone for not wanting to be a parent. It just means that you are the person I come to when I have no money.

Heh.