Don't belong. Dangerous, like you. Can't be controlled. Can't be trusted. Everyone could just go on without me and not have to worry. People could be what they wanted to be. Could be with the people they wanted. Live simple. No secrets.

River ,'Objects In Space'


Spike's Bitches 34: They're All Slime and Antlers  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


juliana - Jan 17, 2007 12:14:20 pm PST #1435 of 10001
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

And clips...check it out, I have a clip file...

erika, that's awesome. And the thing about them being lucky to have you? Totally true.

Hrm. Perhaps brakes are not needed for meara, but a line in the sand that can be re-assessed in a few months?

SO TIRED. Please to let me go home now.


Steph L. - Jan 17, 2007 12:17:05 pm PST #1436 of 10001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I have some discomfort with calling childlessness "a life of one's own."

Well, as you noted, Robin, it's a semantic thing. I admit that I was using it as sloppy shorthand for "a life that is unencumbered by having, raising, and caring for one's own offspring." That's all I meant.

I didn't mean that parents don't have their own lives; and I don't mean that non-parents have lives that are totally unencumbered by any external demand.

I apologize for my sloppy shorthand semantics. I didn't mean to offend parents or non-parents; all of your lives are your own and equally valid.


Aims - Jan 17, 2007 12:19:06 pm PST #1437 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Steph, I, for one, was not offended in the least. If it matters, what with me being a breeder and all.

t winks

I love being a mom. I would hope that noone thought less of me for loving being a mom. I would never think less of anyone for not wanting to be a parent. It just means that you are the person I come to when I have no money.


meara - Jan 17, 2007 12:20:34 pm PST #1438 of 10001

Heh. I think I'm just worried about getting my heart broken. Which of course, is impossible to predict/prevent(in a sane way)/etc.

Stupid realtionship crap.


erikaj - Jan 17, 2007 12:23:10 pm PST #1439 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

I'm completely glad about it...especially when I think about how I worried about that starting out...I wish I had thought in terms of doing it piece by piece cause that's how it happened. Bird by bird, you might say. And I have references beyond the One Prof Who Doesn't Think I'm A Mental Patient, as in college.(My nerves were...not that strong, in school. I still feel bad about that, even thinking about all the demands I had on them.)


Scrappy - Jan 17, 2007 12:23:21 pm PST #1440 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Teppy--I knew as an editrix, you'd understrand that it was merely semantic for me! I knew you didn't mean it the way I took it. It is a phrase I have heard others use (and mean) so I thought it was worth bringing up.


Pix - Jan 17, 2007 12:26:58 pm PST #1441 of 10001
The status is NOT quo.

I apologize for my sloppy shorthand semantics. I didn't mean to offend parents or non-parents; all of your lives are your own and equally valid.

Teppy, I didn't even know that Robin was responding to you (I had to skim a bit since I'm still at work). I was responding to the topic in general, not your comment. No worries on my end!


Steph L. - Jan 17, 2007 12:30:26 pm PST #1442 of 10001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Okay; I was just afraid, between misinterpreting David's earlier post, and my sloppy shorthand, that I was coming off as even more of a dick than usual and managing to offend everyone in one fell swoop.


Nora Deirdre - Jan 17, 2007 12:33:17 pm PST #1443 of 10001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

I love being a mom. I would hope that noone thought less of me for loving being a mom. I would never think less of anyone for not wanting to be a parent. It just means that you are the person I come to when I have no money.

Heh.


Atropa - Jan 17, 2007 12:33:45 pm PST #1444 of 10001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Being childless somehow meant that we weren't a "real" family--that we weren't "real" adults. Some people were (and are) downright patronizing about it.

I've run into that attitude a lot. In fact, someone once told me "Oh, once you outgrow this whole goth thing, you'll change you're mind about kids". I just boggled at them.