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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


bitterchick - Apr 13, 2003 11:50:24 am PDT #9541 of 10001

since there's IMPORTANT DISCUSSION to happen there.

And you have a response in there.


Burrell - Apr 13, 2003 12:47:50 pm PDT #9542 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

"Buffistina Monkeypants has recieved the following Official Stompy Foot notice: blah blah noticecakes"

Oh dear, what did my baby do now?


Fay - Apr 13, 2003 12:55:51 pm PDT #9543 of 10001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Personally, I think it's worth posting any Stompy Notices in Press, not as any kind of public flogging for the Stompee, but just to help these conversations end when they're over. Seeing "Buffistina Monkeypants has recieved the following Official Stompy Foot notice: blah blah noticecakes" in Press would let people know that the decision had been reached, and action taken without having to wade through all 300+ posts in here.

This would be satisfying for people who were irritated Buffistina Monkeypants, and it would save them time wading through the posts here, but I can't see any way for it NOT to be effectively a public flogging. If someone is particularly irritated by a particular poster but hasn't the time to wade through Kafka to check whether any action has been taken, it would take only a moment to email a Stompy and ask. Or even to ask a Stompy if you bump into them in any given thread, for that matter. But pinning up notices saying Buffistina got an Official Warning is pretty much humiliating Buffistina. If we're saying "Yeah, it would be a public flogging but Buffistina's got it coming at this point" then that's one thing, and you can make an argument for it - and I might be convinced, because obviously I do agree that the good of the community is v. important. But I think it's a touch disingenous to ignore the punitive connotations such a notice would have.

Of course, I'm coming at this from a woolly liberal point of view, wanting to give people the benefit of the doubt and try to help them fit in blah blah blah supportivecakes. (I realise that this may make some people want to slap me, but I haven't wholly embraced my InnerSnape yet. Give me time.)

Would it be fair to say that the Stompy Feet are gradually becoming de facto Moderators? (My experience of other communities is limited, so I may not have the right impression of what a Moderator is.)

edited because I can spell impression. Really. I think.


Jessica - Apr 13, 2003 1:01:09 pm PDT #9544 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

But I think it's a touch disingenous to ignore the punitive connotations such a notice would have.

Is it necessarily more punitive than a warning posted in the thread where the offense occured? (Which is my understanding of how the warning system was originally supposed to work, though in this case it doesn't seem to have happened that way.)

Another reason I think warning should go in Press is to guarantee that the person recieving the warning sees it. If someone doesn't read this thread or check their profile email regularly, or somehow skips past the warning in the thread where the offense occured, they may not even realize that they've been Stomped. If the warning's in Press, there's really no way for them to miss it.


Burrell - Apr 13, 2003 1:03:26 pm PDT #9545 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Jess, I think that official warnings are sent by email to the person, for precisely the reason you mention.


Fay - Apr 13, 2003 1:07:59 pm PDT #9546 of 10001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Is it necessarily more punitive than a warning posted in the thread where the offense occured?

considers.

Hmm. Okay, maybe not.

Fwiw, though, I actually dip into Press pretty infrequently myself, so if y'all had been emailing a dusty email address to bitchslap me for being patronising/passive agressive/talking funny it's quite possible that I wouldn't notice it in Press for ages either.

t /guilty


Laura - Apr 13, 2003 1:10:58 pm PDT #9547 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

I don't like the idea of the notice in Press. Email feels better to me. I have fled this thread before and found just skipping to recent would let me know if the issue was resolved. Also, the end to discussion seems to filter over to the other threads.


Allyson - Apr 13, 2003 1:12:02 pm PDT #9548 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I think sending an email and posting it in the thread where the person is, is sufficient.


Lyra Jane - Apr 13, 2003 1:15:48 pm PDT #9549 of 10001
Up with the sun

Agreed with Allyson (and everyone else). Press feels like a public spanking.


Trudy Booth - Apr 13, 2003 1:26:10 pm PDT #9550 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

And maybe a few of us who simply procrastinated on the voting because it always seemed to be getting modified and we missed the final final trulio final this is really it final voting.

I'm just saying voter turnout does not necessarily translate into dedication or frequency of posts.

yep