I couldn't believe it the first twenty times you told us, but it's starting to sink in now.

Riley ,'Lessons'


Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Jessica - Apr 13, 2003 1:01:09 pm PDT #9544 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

But I think it's a touch disingenous to ignore the punitive connotations such a notice would have.

Is it necessarily more punitive than a warning posted in the thread where the offense occured? (Which is my understanding of how the warning system was originally supposed to work, though in this case it doesn't seem to have happened that way.)

Another reason I think warning should go in Press is to guarantee that the person recieving the warning sees it. If someone doesn't read this thread or check their profile email regularly, or somehow skips past the warning in the thread where the offense occured, they may not even realize that they've been Stomped. If the warning's in Press, there's really no way for them to miss it.


Burrell - Apr 13, 2003 1:03:26 pm PDT #9545 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Jess, I think that official warnings are sent by email to the person, for precisely the reason you mention.


Fay - Apr 13, 2003 1:07:59 pm PDT #9546 of 10001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Is it necessarily more punitive than a warning posted in the thread where the offense occured?

considers.

Hmm. Okay, maybe not.

Fwiw, though, I actually dip into Press pretty infrequently myself, so if y'all had been emailing a dusty email address to bitchslap me for being patronising/passive agressive/talking funny it's quite possible that I wouldn't notice it in Press for ages either.

t /guilty


Laura - Apr 13, 2003 1:10:58 pm PDT #9547 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

I don't like the idea of the notice in Press. Email feels better to me. I have fled this thread before and found just skipping to recent would let me know if the issue was resolved. Also, the end to discussion seems to filter over to the other threads.


Allyson - Apr 13, 2003 1:12:02 pm PDT #9548 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I think sending an email and posting it in the thread where the person is, is sufficient.


Lyra Jane - Apr 13, 2003 1:15:48 pm PDT #9549 of 10001
Up with the sun

Agreed with Allyson (and everyone else). Press feels like a public spanking.


Trudy Booth - Apr 13, 2003 1:26:10 pm PDT #9550 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

And maybe a few of us who simply procrastinated on the voting because it always seemed to be getting modified and we missed the final final trulio final this is really it final voting.

I'm just saying voter turnout does not necessarily translate into dedication or frequency of posts.

yep


§ ita § - Apr 13, 2003 2:17:52 pm PDT #9551 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think the not-on-permanent-record message that I sent warrants Press notification, though.

Press guarantees nothing, e-mail guarantees nothing, in the thread where the poster posts guarantees nothing.

Unfortunately.

Personally, on this level, I'm most comfortable with e-mail and Kafka. If you come into Kafka to request something and don't stick around to see how it plays out? Oh, well.


Monique - Apr 13, 2003 4:44:34 pm PDT #9552 of 10001

Can I ask a question?

Not to be contrary, but just because, frankly, ya'll fascinate me: Isn't a 300+ conversation in Bureaucracy about just how much Buffistina Mcpaininthearse needs a warning because of x,y, and z instances of annoyance also akin to a public flogging?


Daisy Jane - Apr 13, 2003 4:56:02 pm PDT #9553 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I think it would be if no one were arguing that B McP didn't and we were just going on about it with no arguments to the contrary. It also might seem like less of one if the person being discussed would discuss the behavior with us.

I can see that us talking about it with out them here to defend themselves can seem like a flogging, but that's not really our fault.