Oh - was Anne W. working up a list of specific decisions? Do we want or need to wait for her to finish, or should we just go ahead with the blanket statement?
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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier
A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.
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brenda m - Mar 28, 2003 10:01:42 am PST #8906 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
Wolfram - Mar 28, 2003 10:02:25 am PST #8907 of 10001
Visilurking
The wording on that looks perfect to me. Anybody see emendations that are needed?
It looks good, but I think any emendation suggestions should wait until it's in discussion right?
Jon B. - Mar 28, 2003 10:02:38 am PST #8908 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
Someone, I forget who (Anne maybe?), was going to make a list of all the decisions we've made. That list should definitely be appended. t edit x-post w/ Brenda.
Also, do we want to say "shall begin from the passage of this proposal" or "shall begin from the time the decision was made or idea was dropped"? With the former, assuming the current ballot passes, there will be things that we won't be reconsidering until 9 months after the initial decision. Which may be fine -- I don't have a strong opinion either way.
Wolfram - Mar 28, 2003 10:03:49 am PST #8909 of 10001
Visilurking
Oh - was Anne W. working up a list of specific decisions? Do we want or need to wait for her to finish, or should we just go ahead with the blanket statement?
I cannot express enough how helpful this list would be for this issue.
Jess M. - Mar 28, 2003 10:04:45 am PST #8910 of 10001
Let me just say that popularity with people on public transportation does not equal literary respect. --Jesse
She's working on it.
Betsy HP - Mar 28, 2003 10:05:10 am PST #8911 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
I believe the idea was that to avoid massive pain in the discussion, the proposer would put forward a final ballot; the discussion would be about "yes" or "no", not about tweaking the ballot. Otherwise you run into consensus issues again.
Or did I misunderstand?
edit: see here: Cindy "Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier" Mar 27, 2003 2:11:26 pm EST
brenda m - Mar 28, 2003 10:07:06 am PST #8912 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
Betsy, as I understand it, you make the initial proposal but after discussion you have the freedom to amend at will until the end when you post a final ballot.
Dana - Mar 28, 2003 10:07:15 am PST #8913 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
I believe the idea was that to avoid massive pain in the discussion, the proposer would put forward a final ballot; the discussion would be about "yes" or "no", not about tweaking the ballot.
That's certainly what I understood.
Deena - Mar 28, 2003 10:08:23 am PST #8914 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara
and I thought you could suggest things you'd like to see on the ballot, and why, but the final decision lay with the proposer.
Cindy - Mar 28, 2003 12:18:32 pm PST #8915 of 10001
Nobody
A combination of what Deena, Dana and Betsy said. People can make suggestions, but the ballot doesn't get stuck because people can't compromise on a decision between something like 3 and 4 (erm...hypothetically).
Because it's Betsy's ballgame, we won't reach the gridlock we reached last time. The final wording is decided by the proposer. The only decision the community-at-large has is with our yea or nay votes.