You've got my support. Just think of me as...as your... You know, I'm searching for 'supportive things' and I'm coming up all bras.

Xander ,'Empty Places'


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Wolfram - Mar 28, 2003 12:20:48 pm PST #8916 of 10001
Visilurking

I believe the idea was that to avoid massive pain in the discussion, the proposer would put forward a final ballot; the discussion would be about "yes" or "no", not about tweaking the ballot.

and I thought you could suggest things you'd like to see on the ballot, and why, but the final decision lay with the proposer.

I agree with Deena. A discussion strictly about yes or no is not going to get very far unless the proposer has leeway to amend/change the ballot to reflect the discussion. So the ballot proposed by Betsy can be debated and discussed, with Betsy having leeway to make changes and posting a final version.

(FTR, one problem with this method is that I believe any ballot proposed, seconded, and posted will get the MVT of 42, even if it's about Monkeys or Nutty butts and if people are unhappy with the way a ballot is crafted and the only recourse is not to vote, it won't keep the issue from getting moratoriumed. Hopefully the responsible Buffista proposers will be careful to craft the ballot so it's truly fair and representative.)

partial x-post with Cindy


Betsy HP - Mar 28, 2003 12:29:26 pm PST #8917 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Okay. I wield the pen and promise to wield it monkey wisefnordly.


Deena - Mar 28, 2003 12:34:31 pm PST #8918 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

Betsy made me laugh and wolfram made me do a doubletake. I now have giggling whiplash. It's a medical term.


Wolfram - Mar 28, 2003 12:43:07 pm PST #8919 of 10001
Visilurking

Betsy made me laugh too. Doubletake on what, Deena?


Deena - Mar 28, 2003 1:00:23 pm PST #8920 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

You agreed with me. *g*


Wolfram - Mar 28, 2003 1:11:36 pm PST #8921 of 10001
Visilurking

It was bound to happen sooner or later.


Anne W. - Mar 29, 2003 6:47:11 am PST #8922 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Oh - was Anne W. working up a list of specific decisions? Do we want or need to wait for her to finish, or should we just go ahead with the blanket statement?

I cannot express enough how helpful this list would be for this issue.

I'll try to have it done by sometime tomorrow. I'm erring on the side of being a little too inclusive.


Jesse - Mar 29, 2003 7:10:48 am PST #8923 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

So, someone wanna open up Light Bulbs so we can begin the Formal Discussion on Betsy's proposal?

(FTR, here's how I see this working: someone makes a proposal, it gets seconded [fourthed], and then we don't talk about it in here anymore -- we wait to talk about it in Light Bulbs.)


Sophia Brooks - Mar 29, 2003 7:33:22 am PST #8924 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I think they are waiting to open the disucssion until Anne has a list.


Jesse - Mar 29, 2003 7:37:27 am PST #8925 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh right. OK then. Carry on.