Can't drink, smoke, diddle my willy. Doesn't leave much to do other than watch you blokes stumble around playing Agatha Christie.

Spike ,'The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco'


Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Betsy HP - Dec 26, 2002 5:26:13 pm PST #1403 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Fay, you're consistently funny; you don't go beyond the seaside-postcard level of crude. Don't think otherwise.


Allyson - Dec 26, 2002 5:30:18 pm PST #1404 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

It's your community, do as you will and don't fret too much more. There's been a lot of discourse, I'm not going to cry if Stompy Foot goes Shack. I'd expect anyone here to tell me when I'm out of line, or ban my ass if I suddenly lost my shit and started making everyone uncomfy on a day to day basis.

Yes. Some people are oversensitive to a fault. OTOH, some people are insensitive to a fault. Both make me close the window and go someplace else. Ya know?


Consuela - Dec 26, 2002 5:31:34 pm PST #1405 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

And, frankly, context is everything. We know Fay, and we know that (most of the time) she's kidding, and/or it's so overthetop it's funny rather than offensive.

This guy isn't funny, although I expect he thinks he is.


Laura - Dec 26, 2002 5:35:51 pm PST #1406 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

What Betsy said Fay.

And he's just pulled the "other people talked about cocksucking" argument. Argh.

I can see where a stranger could wander into a thread with crude banter among regular posters and misinterpret the usual and acceptable behavior here. When we read a post from someone we know it is easy for us to understand the intent behind the words. The same words can be used by a stranger and we are uncomfortable. Regular posters have joked about inappropriate thoughts of Dawn after OMWF.

I’m not defending the offending poster here, just asking that we proceed within the guidelines discussed before the board opened. They were worded well, imo.


Fay - Dec 26, 2002 5:37:43 pm PST #1407 of 10001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

I'm actually pretty upset here, and I think perhaps this should be a learning curve for me about being coarse. But I think what I'm finding most jarring isn't the coarseness per se, which I can handle, but rather the feeling - both with the MT remarks and earlier remarks about people being dorks or idiots or what have you - of a lack of respect and consideration for other people's feelings.

I know I'm guilty of being flirtatious & crass, but it's generally (always?) me that's the butt of my own jokes. Not slagging other people off.

But I think maybe I need to learn to think first and type later.


Betsy HP - Dec 26, 2002 5:38:26 pm PST #1408 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Regular posters have joked about inappropriate thoughts of Dawn after OMWF.

Actually, it was done extremely gingerly, along the lines of "God, I'm embarrassed to admit I noticed".

We're arguing about a difference in tone, and discussions of tone are always subjective. I realize that. However, I see a real boundary between "I am SO on the special train" and what was posted.

I'd like to see a polite warning, because the responses to our polite requests seem to be dismissive.


Jen - Dec 26, 2002 5:38:30 pm PST #1409 of 10001
love's a dream you enter though I shake and shake and shake you

Don't you dare, Fay. There is NOTHING wrong with how you post.


DXMachina - Dec 26, 2002 5:40:08 pm PST #1410 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Here's the problem I have. I don't like this guy. I, for one, want him the hell out of here. It is not like this is someone who has been posting here for a long time. He just showed up a few days ago, he's making a lot of my friends uncomfortable, and he seems to be testing the boundaries of how far we will let him go. If we let him stay, a lot of other newbies are going to think that his manner of discourse is acceptable here. People have warned him that his comments are inappropriate. He seems unimpressed.


§ ita § - Dec 26, 2002 5:40:27 pm PST #1411 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think we can assume he's dismissed them until he oversteps them again, otherwise we're judging him on inappropriate contrition.

He's been warned, by many people.

Next time, he gets stomped.


Betsy HP - Dec 26, 2002 5:42:31 pm PST #1412 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Okay, works for me.