I'll just jump in my time machine, go back to the twelfth century, and ask the vampires to postpone their ancient prophesy for a few days while you take in dinner and a show.

Giles ,'Selfless'


Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Fay - Dec 26, 2002 5:37:43 pm PST #1407 of 10001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

I'm actually pretty upset here, and I think perhaps this should be a learning curve for me about being coarse. But I think what I'm finding most jarring isn't the coarseness per se, which I can handle, but rather the feeling - both with the MT remarks and earlier remarks about people being dorks or idiots or what have you - of a lack of respect and consideration for other people's feelings.

I know I'm guilty of being flirtatious & crass, but it's generally (always?) me that's the butt of my own jokes. Not slagging other people off.

But I think maybe I need to learn to think first and type later.


Betsy HP - Dec 26, 2002 5:38:26 pm PST #1408 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Regular posters have joked about inappropriate thoughts of Dawn after OMWF.

Actually, it was done extremely gingerly, along the lines of "God, I'm embarrassed to admit I noticed".

We're arguing about a difference in tone, and discussions of tone are always subjective. I realize that. However, I see a real boundary between "I am SO on the special train" and what was posted.

I'd like to see a polite warning, because the responses to our polite requests seem to be dismissive.


Jen - Dec 26, 2002 5:38:30 pm PST #1409 of 10001
love's a dream you enter though I shake and shake and shake you

Don't you dare, Fay. There is NOTHING wrong with how you post.


DXMachina - Dec 26, 2002 5:40:08 pm PST #1410 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Here's the problem I have. I don't like this guy. I, for one, want him the hell out of here. It is not like this is someone who has been posting here for a long time. He just showed up a few days ago, he's making a lot of my friends uncomfortable, and he seems to be testing the boundaries of how far we will let him go. If we let him stay, a lot of other newbies are going to think that his manner of discourse is acceptable here. People have warned him that his comments are inappropriate. He seems unimpressed.


§ ita § - Dec 26, 2002 5:40:27 pm PST #1411 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think we can assume he's dismissed them until he oversteps them again, otherwise we're judging him on inappropriate contrition.

He's been warned, by many people.

Next time, he gets stomped.


Betsy HP - Dec 26, 2002 5:42:31 pm PST #1412 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Okay, works for me.


Laura - Dec 26, 2002 5:42:33 pm PST #1413 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

Fay - I always enjoy and often laugh out loud when I read your posts. PLEASE don't consider your posts comparable to the objectionable poster. Oh my, consider the number of your posts in COMM!


Susan W. - Dec 26, 2002 5:44:28 pm PST #1414 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

If the poster in question was otherwise nice and seemed interested in fitting in, I'd think he was just tone deaf to the difference between pleasingly bawdy and disgustingly raunchy. However, I'm thinking really clever troll, using the fact it's hard to codify bawdy vs. raunchy against us.


Betsy HP - Dec 26, 2002 5:44:52 pm PST #1415 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

oh, iiiiitaaaaaa....


John H - Dec 26, 2002 5:45:29 pm PST #1416 of 10001

Regular posters have joked about inappropriate thoughts of Dawn after OMWF.

Guilty as charged. But not crudely, as Betsy said, and with a sense of a guilty admission, not with this guy's dirty-minded relish.

I don't like this guy. I, for one, want him the hell out of here. It is not like this is someone who has been posting here for a long time.

I agree, but being devil's advocate, it must be confusing for him to see one type of crude joke being made, and make another type, and get rebuffed.

The rebuffs aren't having much effect, as well. One thing he's said, in case you missed it, is that he's posting drunk.

He's been warned, by many people.

Does he know he's been officially warned? Is there language we should use to make that clear?