They weren't talking about Kissinger, though. They were talking about Spiro Agnew, IIRC. Still, I could be led to believe that everyone in the Nixon Whitehouse was some kind of demon. t Idly ponders whether Gerald Ford was of the same demon species as Clem...

edit in answer to Ple's following post: Sorry lost track of the thread. Sure this Read New button is convenient and all, but at what price? Now there's Natter in Bureaucracy.

cough... Natter?

I crush you all! Why? I am a Stompy Foot. Take complaints to, um, Bureaucracy.

Heh. jengod deleted ita. She's crazy with the power! Uh, think of something quick and bureaucratic so she doesn't delete this...this goes back to our earlier discussion of how we think of this community. Is it a community primarily focused on the Jossiverse shows, or has it already expanded into something which (like Literary Buffistas) wants to discuss other topics within this community. So a political thread would support the second notion. Long term, do we expect there to be a Movie discussion here as well? Or are people happy with Ovies? Do we want a Farscape thread? Or is Smallville the lone non-Joss show representative?

I think maybe we have grown beyond the Jossverse. Let's take a worst case scenario. (Not a real world worse case, but a Joss related worst case.) Firefly fail. Because not enough attention is paid, Buffy and Angel move into permanent suckitude and lose audience. All three shows are canceled. Do we want this community to end.

Hec we named a thread after a beutiful post in which you said no.

So I think we are definitely going to grow beyond a pure Joss community. As long as the Jossverse exists, I think it will the Buffista center. But I think in the long run we are more than just part of the Jossverse.

Jengod, bureaucracy isn't a natter-delete zone. Only press and beep are. This is natter discouraged, however, so you are free to spank me.

*lights match between toes of jengod's stompy foot. walks off, whistling innocently*

I do think a decision needs to be made whether the Phoenix is solely a Joss World Domination project, or whether it will be extended beyond that. It doesn't seem fair to include one show and not another, i.e., Smallville but not Farscape, so some kind of consistency needs to be achieved. Personally, I'm not fussed either way, yet it would be nice to discuss other genre shows.

The Farscapers still have the Who's Your Daddy thread at WX. Smallville grew out of a desire to not clutter SB w/ Lex... all the time.

Or is Smallville the lone non-Joss show representative?

We also have Due South.

I think it was a volume thing, evil jimi. The Smallville traffic is not only pretty horrendous, its volume drowns out things near it.

While there's probably more respect for Farscape among Buffistas, I don't know if there's the sort of critical mass of discussion that could support what grew to three threads on the Smallville case.

edit: Right -- Due South. It's all about the Ho Yay!

Politics is also a very different beast than, say, a new show, or even a general movies thread. I'm much more likely to change my opinion of a person based on whether he approves of John Ashcroft's stomping on the Bill of Rights than on whether she thinks Kristen Kreuk can act. Many more opportunities for flame-age, for troll-attract-age, for bad feeling-age. I'm with the nay-age.

ETA -- I came in very late to this discussion, didn't I? Sorry if I'm restating the obvious.