Simon: I'm trying to put this as delicately as I can... How do I know you won't kill me in my sleep? Mal: You don't know me, son. So let me explain this to you once: If I ever kill you, you'll be awake, you'll be facing me, and you'll be armed.

'Serenity'


All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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tiggy - Mar 03, 2012 6:47:09 am PST #9606 of 9843
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

we actually don't know that the flash forward is supposed to be the baby. it's heavily implied, but never stated outright.

honestly, i was worried about the new series because i'd kind of stopped caring about it last season. this reboot is really clever and the new guys are great. very anti-George and Mitchell.


DebetEsse - Mar 03, 2012 7:05:49 am PST #9607 of 9843
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Fair point, tiggy. It's weird that they haven't said one way or the other on who she is. If it's Eve, then that's hardly surprising. If it's not, I don't know who else it would be (no one we've met, presumably).

I do wonder about the fate of Our Heroes in the flash-forward.


Dana - Mar 03, 2012 8:15:57 am PST #9608 of 9843
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

I was halfway through series 3, and I'm not sure I'm motivated to finish it now.


DebetEsse - Mar 03, 2012 8:26:41 am PST #9609 of 9843
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Sorry, Dana.

If it helps, it sounds like Mark Gatiss will be showing up later this series.


le nubian - Mar 03, 2012 9:44:14 am PST #9610 of 9843
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Dana,

I think the season finale for BH Season 3 is incredibly. Really raw, emotional fitting.

It would have been a fitting end to the series. I think you should (at minimum) finish the series.

I have only seen 2 eps of 4, so I can't yet comment. The second ep of 4 left me in tears (allergies maybe), so I hope I don't continue to be a wreck the rest of the series.


§ ita § - Mar 13, 2012 4:42:48 pm PDT #9611 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So I just read this (horrendous) article about religious objection to same sex marriage in the UK: [link] by the country's most senior Catholic. Note to the choir--avoid the comments.

Anyway--I wanted to be sure of GB's laws--civil partnership is okay, but not religious weddings? Church weddings? Some church weddings? I'm not fully sure of the distinction between legal union and marriage that's being drawn at the start of the heinous diatribe, which goes on to draw way too close a parallel between gay marriage and slavery.


Beverly - Mar 13, 2012 6:31:36 pm PDT #9612 of 9843
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Okay, I stopped reading at "the tyranny of tolerance." I thnk I need a shower. And possibly a drink.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Mar 13, 2012 9:43:36 pm PDT #9613 of 9843
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

Current UK law allows opposite-sex marriage registered either by the appropriate religious figure or the registry office, and same-sex 'civil partnerships' only through the registry office (there are slight differences, e.g. no religious content is allowed in a civil partnership ceremony, the legally significant act is of signing a register rather than taking verbal vows, etc.). Some civil rights groups - e.g. Peter Tatchell's organisation - think this unfair to everyone, and the Equal Love campaign are asking for the law to extend to allow all combinations: same-sex marriage, both civil and religious, and opposite-sex civil partnerships. (Some gay rights people thought the 'civil partnership' compromise was a silly fudge from the start, especially since nobody ever calls it anything but 'marriage' in casual conversation.)

Some religious groups - e.g. Quakers, Unitarians, Liberal Jews - think the current situation is unfair and are campaigning for a change in the law to allow them to perform same-sex partnerships/weddings within their religious frameworks, as currently used for opposite-sex marriage. I think it's mostly this bit which has some people's knickers in a twist.


§ ita § - Mar 18, 2012 11:50:22 am PDT #9614 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm having a hard time being left with Annie front and centre. She's so...I dislike her fakey fakey attitude, and I'm only on episode 2. Does the focus shift away from her more? The werewolf and the new vampire are less annoying, but not yet interesting. The other female ghost is pleasant (eta: well, so much for her...reminder not to post until at least the end of the ep in question...).

But...Annie. Why did she have to be the one left behind?


tiggy - Mar 18, 2012 2:49:10 pm PDT #9615 of 9843
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

honestly, ita, i love Hal and Tom like whoa. they make me laugh in every ep. they have a great bromance. i'm not really a fan of Annie either. she's definitely not why i'm watching.