Every nightmare I have that doesn't revolve around academic failure or public nudity is about that thing. In fact, once I dreamt that it attacked me while I was late for a test and naked.

Willow ,'The Killer In Me'


All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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DebetEsse - Mar 03, 2012 8:26:41 am PST #9609 of 9843
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Sorry, Dana.

If it helps, it sounds like Mark Gatiss will be showing up later this series.


le nubian - Mar 03, 2012 9:44:14 am PST #9610 of 9843
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Dana,

I think the season finale for BH Season 3 is incredibly. Really raw, emotional fitting.

It would have been a fitting end to the series. I think you should (at minimum) finish the series.

I have only seen 2 eps of 4, so I can't yet comment. The second ep of 4 left me in tears (allergies maybe), so I hope I don't continue to be a wreck the rest of the series.


§ ita § - Mar 13, 2012 4:42:48 pm PDT #9611 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So I just read this (horrendous) article about religious objection to same sex marriage in the UK: [link] by the country's most senior Catholic. Note to the choir--avoid the comments.

Anyway--I wanted to be sure of GB's laws--civil partnership is okay, but not religious weddings? Church weddings? Some church weddings? I'm not fully sure of the distinction between legal union and marriage that's being drawn at the start of the heinous diatribe, which goes on to draw way too close a parallel between gay marriage and slavery.


Beverly - Mar 13, 2012 6:31:36 pm PDT #9612 of 9843
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Okay, I stopped reading at "the tyranny of tolerance." I thnk I need a shower. And possibly a drink.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Mar 13, 2012 9:43:36 pm PDT #9613 of 9843
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

Current UK law allows opposite-sex marriage registered either by the appropriate religious figure or the registry office, and same-sex 'civil partnerships' only through the registry office (there are slight differences, e.g. no religious content is allowed in a civil partnership ceremony, the legally significant act is of signing a register rather than taking verbal vows, etc.). Some civil rights groups - e.g. Peter Tatchell's organisation - think this unfair to everyone, and the Equal Love campaign are asking for the law to extend to allow all combinations: same-sex marriage, both civil and religious, and opposite-sex civil partnerships. (Some gay rights people thought the 'civil partnership' compromise was a silly fudge from the start, especially since nobody ever calls it anything but 'marriage' in casual conversation.)

Some religious groups - e.g. Quakers, Unitarians, Liberal Jews - think the current situation is unfair and are campaigning for a change in the law to allow them to perform same-sex partnerships/weddings within their religious frameworks, as currently used for opposite-sex marriage. I think it's mostly this bit which has some people's knickers in a twist.


§ ita § - Mar 18, 2012 11:50:22 am PDT #9614 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm having a hard time being left with Annie front and centre. She's so...I dislike her fakey fakey attitude, and I'm only on episode 2. Does the focus shift away from her more? The werewolf and the new vampire are less annoying, but not yet interesting. The other female ghost is pleasant (eta: well, so much for her...reminder not to post until at least the end of the ep in question...).

But...Annie. Why did she have to be the one left behind?


tiggy - Mar 18, 2012 2:49:10 pm PDT #9615 of 9843
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

honestly, ita, i love Hal and Tom like whoa. they make me laugh in every ep. they have a great bromance. i'm not really a fan of Annie either. she's definitely not why i'm watching.


§ ita § - Mar 18, 2012 3:07:41 pm PDT #9616 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'll give it one more ep, I figure. There's just too much of her. I didn't mind her so much in the previous seasons, but until she's acting like a peer with Hal and Tom, I...it just grates. She's camp counsellor like whoa right now, and it grates.


tiggy - Mar 18, 2012 7:16:32 pm PDT #9617 of 9843
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

the third ep is chock full of Tom/Hal goodness!


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Mar 19, 2012 11:48:10 am PDT #9618 of 9843
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

But...Annie. Why did she have to be the one left behind?

Agreed. She's just annoying. I'd have been happy with either of the others. Am two episodes behind but I'm not sure I really care.

With regards to same-sex marriage, the UK only has civil partnerships - no actual marriage yet. The key thing at the moment is that the government intends to pass a law allowing same-sex civil marriage. The churches (of various denominations) are being absolutely appalling about it. Waking up every other morning to some random archbishop telling me I'm singlehandedly responsible for the imminent collapse of British society is just so much fun. Still, if all goes well we should be able to get a marriage upgrade soon. SeskaAndTheGirl 2.0

Some gay rights people thought the 'civil partnership' compromise was a silly fudge from the start, especially since nobody ever calls it anything but 'marriage' in casual conversation.

Quite. That and the fact that civil partnerships confer exactly the same rights as marriage (which is where the churches are sounding completely bonkers right now). We don't think of ours as anything less than a marriage.