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All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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beekaytee - Dec 10, 2010 5:00:24 pm PST #9112 of 9843
Compassionately intolerant

Speaking of dumb American losing the plot, can anyone explain to me the differing use of 'maths' vs. 'math'?

I swear, I never heard the use of maths until less than a year ago. Is that a recent contraction or have I just missed it?

Is it about there being a variety of types of mathematics or is it Math(ematic)s vs. Math(ematics)?


§ ita § - Dec 10, 2010 5:13:07 pm PST #9113 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That's how I said it when I took Maths A Level in the 80s, so it's definitely not new.

It's just dialect.


tiggy - Dec 10, 2010 5:31:54 pm PST #9114 of 9843
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

Speaking of dumb American losing the plot, can anyone explain to me the differing use of 'maths' vs. 'math'?

all the brits i've talked to about that say it's called mathematics, not mathematic. *shrug* i still think it sounds wrong with the "s" added on.


§ ita § - Dec 10, 2010 5:36:14 pm PST #9115 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But you don't usually abbreviate a word by taking out the middle.

Still, really, it's about what you grew up with. So it all sounds reasonable to me.


beekaytee - Dec 10, 2010 5:36:52 pm PST #9116 of 9843
Compassionately intolerant

all the brits i've talked to about that say it's called mathematics, not mathematic

This makes perfect sense to me, though I can't think of any similar plural abbreviations.

That's how I said it when I took Maths A Level in the 80s, so it's definitely not new.

That was my assumption, but given what a crazy Anglophile I am, it's boggling to think that particular word never crossed my ears before.


billytea - Dec 10, 2010 7:35:37 pm PST #9117 of 9843
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

This makes perfect sense to me, though I can't think of any similar plural abbreviations.

I'd say anything else you abbreviate in the plural would keep the 's'. The abbreviation of gymnasiums isn't just gym, for instance.


§ ita § - Dec 10, 2010 7:47:19 pm PST #9118 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think the difference is that people don't think of mathematics as plural, because no one talks about mathematic. So to an American, it's just a word ending in s. The abbreviation of gymnasiums is the plural of the abbreviation of gymnasium.


billytea - Dec 10, 2010 8:37:37 pm PST #9119 of 9843
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

I think the difference is that people don't think of mathematics as plural, because no one talks about mathematic.

Sure, and using Math instead of Maths doesn't really ping me. I notice, but just in an "oh yeah, American" kind of way. It is, however, anomalous, strictly speaking.


Jars - Dec 11, 2010 2:01:49 am PST #9120 of 9843

I still don't know what 'safe' is supposed to mean though.

It's a stand-in for 'okay' or 'wicked' or maybe cool. Except I don't think any chav would ever be heard using the word 'cool'.

So you'd hear people saying "Yeah, aright, safe" at the end of conversations or if they're agreeing with something. Saying "Safe, blud" is a greeting too, sometimes...


Fiona - Dec 15, 2010 9:30:38 am PST #9121 of 9843

Well, I really enjoyed that one. (Got to it a little late, but....).

What with caring about what happened to Kelly, and being genuinely happy for Simon, our Nathan seems to be in danger of turning into a regular, or at least a not-permanently-irritating, guy.

(He still managed to say, "What's a gorilla doing in a gorilla suit?" though, and for that I am grateful).

ETA: Misfits Christmas Special is this coming Sunday, E4, 10 pm.