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All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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Lola Walser - Dec 20, 2006 9:18:20 am PST #8260 of 9843
Madame, what you said to her was "squid", not "good morning".

Thanks, David! *notepad*

I picked up "Anglo" from a Jewish Australian who described herself as "ethnic" (because perceived as such by "Anglos", then adopting it--I can't convey her nuances. Apparently in Australia everyone one but Brit-derived Anglos are "ethnics".)

Yes, in this world language alone doesn't make you Anglo (I too spoke English before either of my parental languages)--culture and at least a dash of genetics, perhaps?

I'm linguistically Anglo, but as a black chick, genetically Anglo isn't going to be the first thing that occurs to you on seeing me.

I'm going to imagine you in Australia--ooops, ethnic! :)


§ ita § - Dec 20, 2006 9:22:29 am PST #8261 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm ethnic everywhere. It's a gift of mine.


Lola Walser - Dec 20, 2006 9:30:16 am PST #8262 of 9843
Madame, what you said to her was "squid", not "good morning".

Really? My Jewish Aussie friend didn't feel ethnic in Israel.

Context is funny. I never felt European until I came to the US. And then it would.not.be.forgotten. Like a pebble in the shoe.

Never knew I was white until New Orleans. And that was worse than a pebble in the shoe.

My gift is to feel uncomfortable EVERYWHERE.


Frankenbuddha - Dec 20, 2006 9:43:15 am PST #8263 of 9843
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

We have no French Canadians, do we? Now I want some. That's what I think of when I think Anglo--the Quebecois definition.

Does Quebecois-American count?


§ ita § - Dec 20, 2006 9:45:38 am PST #8264 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Does Quebecois-American count?

Not as far as I know, mostly because I'm not familiar with the culture and how they separate themselves from the rest of the country.


Lola Walser - Dec 20, 2006 9:48:42 am PST #8265 of 9843
Madame, what you said to her was "squid", not "good morning".

Quebecois-American

One from two halves, immigrant or do you mean Cajun? :)


Frankenbuddha - Dec 20, 2006 9:50:42 am PST #8266 of 9843
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

One from two halves, immigrant or do you mean Cajun? :)

Second generation born in this country, is what I mean. The term that's used most frequently in Maine is Franco-American, but I've heard Qubecois-American too.


flea - Dec 20, 2006 9:51:09 am PST #8267 of 9843
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I believe Frank is what they call in Maine, "French," which means his fairly recent ancestors probably immigrated there from Quebec, probably to work in the mills. It's definitely an ethnic culture in Maine, but not widely known outside of the state/region.

On another note, I was fascinated by a recent New Yorker article about the 5000 Somali immigrants to Lewiston, ME (where I used to live.)


DavidS - Dec 20, 2006 9:51:36 am PST #8268 of 9843
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

term that's used most frequently in Maine is Franco-American

Not Franko-Buddhean?


Nutty - Dec 20, 2006 9:53:51 am PST #8269 of 9843
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I always just said Maine French (to distinguish from France-French and actual from-Quebec Quebecois).

Certainly, in Maine, it makes a difference, especially among the older generations for whom Quebecois-style French is a living language. Outside the upper northeast, everybody's like, "Well, it's just a whole bunch of white people splitting hairs to find something to dislike each other over."

edit: near x-post with the similarly Maine-familiar sister!