We have no French Canadians, do we? Now I want some. That's what I think of when I think Anglo--the Quebecois definition.
Does Quebecois-American count?
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Frankenbuddha - Dec 20, 2006 9:43:15 am PST #8263 of 9843
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§ ita § - Dec 20, 2006 9:45:38 am PST #8264 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Does Quebecois-American count?
Not as far as I know, mostly because I'm not familiar with the culture and how they separate themselves from the rest of the country.
Lola Walser - Dec 20, 2006 9:48:42 am PST #8265 of 9843
Madame, what you said to her was "squid", not "good morning".
Quebecois-American
One from two halves, immigrant or do you mean Cajun? :)
Frankenbuddha - Dec 20, 2006 9:50:42 am PST #8266 of 9843
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
One from two halves, immigrant or do you mean Cajun? :)
Second generation born in this country, is what I mean. The term that's used most frequently in Maine is Franco-American, but I've heard Qubecois-American too.
flea - Dec 20, 2006 9:51:09 am PST #8267 of 9843
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I believe Frank is what they call in Maine, "French," which means his fairly recent ancestors probably immigrated there from Quebec, probably to work in the mills. It's definitely an ethnic culture in Maine, but not widely known outside of the state/region.
On another note, I was fascinated by a recent New Yorker article about the 5000 Somali immigrants to Lewiston, ME (where I used to live.)
DavidS - Dec 20, 2006 9:51:36 am PST #8268 of 9843
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term that's used most frequently in Maine is Franco-American
Not Franko-Buddhean?
Nutty - Dec 20, 2006 9:53:51 am PST #8269 of 9843
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I always just said Maine French (to distinguish from France-French and actual from-Quebec Quebecois).
Certainly, in Maine, it makes a difference, especially among the older generations for whom Quebecois-style French is a living language. Outside the upper northeast, everybody's like, "Well, it's just a whole bunch of white people splitting hairs to find something to dislike each other over."
edit: near x-post with the similarly Maine-familiar sister!
§ ita § - Dec 20, 2006 9:54:31 am PST #8270 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
which means his fairly recent ancestors probably immigrated there from Quebec
Do they have to have been Francophones for the designation to stick? And can the person now not be a Francophone and still be called French?
I'm scratching my head. I'm not sure if someone from a Francophone family in Quebec but who no longer speaks the language gets called something different, like Anglo.
flea - Dec 20, 2006 9:58:34 am PST #8271 of 9843
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I think all of the millworker immigration from Quebec to Maine was Francophone (and Catholic). People who are ethnically "French" in Maine mostly don't speak French as their mother tongue anymore, though there are funny words and terms. My stepmother is Franco-American (to use the more formal term) and her mother (born ca. 1930, in Maine) speaks French some. My stepmother doesn't, but she says things like "close the light" (from fermer la lumiere) and uses the word "fessie" for buttock.
Jesse - Dec 20, 2006 10:01:29 am PST #8272 of 9843
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My memere comes from an originally French family that lived in Quebec for a couple of hundred years before coming to the states for another couple of years before she was born. If she's letting you call her anything but American, it's French, not Canadian. She speaks French, but I think she learned it at school, or from the maid (in Maine or Massachusetts), not from her mother.