My Grandfather (well, all my grandparents, but I'm thinking of the pulpit-swapping with synagogues and black churches in the south grandfather in particular) as well. Progressive thinkers didn't just spring from the ether in 1961.
Ouhh! Snacks! The secret to any successful migration! Who's up for some tasty fried meat products!?
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All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American
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Trudy Booth - Sep 19, 2002 12:58:03 am PDT #74 of 9843
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
Typo Boy - Sep 19, 2002 12:59:35 am PDT #75 of 9843
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
Exactly - you can go all the way back. There were Catholic priests who tried to save American Indians from being slaughtered by Columbus. So no one gets too much of a break for being too old to know better.
Daisy Jane - Sep 19, 2002 1:03:12 am PDT #76 of 9843
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
The difference, to me, in deciding whether or not to make allowances is the degree of malice I find in their views. Whether or not it comes from hatred or ignorance.
Trudy Booth - Sep 19, 2002 1:04:16 am PDT #77 of 9843
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
Not a complete break but a little lattitude... the family friend IS thinking outside the box he was given, but it's a teeny box.
And he also gets the "deals with individuals fairly" chit. He may make broad statements about "the blacks" or "the hispanics" but he's a respected mechanic who treats his customers and employees of all backgrounds well. He's the guy bussing was invented for-- hard to diss the folks you know.
Susan W. - Sep 19, 2002 1:06:47 am PDT #78 of 9843
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights
FWIW, my shiny new tagline is CS Lewis--but it seemed appropriate to the new board.
(For posterity, "Friendship is unnecessary, like philosophy, like art... It has no survival value; rather it is one of those things that give value to survival.")
Typo Boy - Sep 19, 2002 1:09:53 am PDT #79 of 9843
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
Mr. Lewis, meet Richard Dawkins. Mr. Dawkins meet C.S. Lewis.
Angus G - Sep 19, 2002 1:39:06 am PDT #80 of 9843
Roguish Laird
Snerk! Gar is right; it infuriates me when people say things like "but everyone was anti-Semitic then." Well, no they weren't. Just for a start, an awful lot of Jews weren't anti-Semitic. (Some were, of course.)
Trudy Booth - Sep 19, 2002 1:45:29 am PDT #81 of 9843
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
Yes, those "everyones" are a disservice to the bold exceptions and an arrogant view of ourselves.
Daisy Jane - Sep 19, 2002 1:47:33 am PDT #82 of 9843
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
I was going to say something about having the courage of your convictions and bravery in the face of ingnorance and oppression, but smarter people than I have said it and I'm tired. Go look them up and pretend I said it.
evil jimi - Sep 19, 2002 3:58:41 am PDT #83 of 9843
Lurching from one disaster to the next.
I've never read any C. S. Lewis. t /Not wanting to be left out of the CSL conversation