Exactly - you can go all the way back. There were Catholic priests who tried to save American Indians from being slaughtered by Columbus. So no one gets too much of a break for being too old to know better.
Nothing worse than a monster who thinks he's right with God.
Mal ,'Heart Of Gold'
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Typo Boy - Sep 19, 2002 12:59:35 am PDT #75 of 9843
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
Daisy Jane - Sep 19, 2002 1:03:12 am PDT #76 of 9843
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
The difference, to me, in deciding whether or not to make allowances is the degree of malice I find in their views. Whether or not it comes from hatred or ignorance.
Trudy Booth - Sep 19, 2002 1:04:16 am PDT #77 of 9843
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
Not a complete break but a little lattitude... the family friend IS thinking outside the box he was given, but it's a teeny box.
And he also gets the "deals with individuals fairly" chit. He may make broad statements about "the blacks" or "the hispanics" but he's a respected mechanic who treats his customers and employees of all backgrounds well. He's the guy bussing was invented for-- hard to diss the folks you know.
Susan W. - Sep 19, 2002 1:06:47 am PDT #78 of 9843
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights
FWIW, my shiny new tagline is CS Lewis--but it seemed appropriate to the new board.
(For posterity, "Friendship is unnecessary, like philosophy, like art... It has no survival value; rather it is one of those things that give value to survival.")
Typo Boy - Sep 19, 2002 1:09:53 am PDT #79 of 9843
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
Mr. Lewis, meet Richard Dawkins. Mr. Dawkins meet C.S. Lewis.
Angus G - Sep 19, 2002 1:39:06 am PDT #80 of 9843
Roguish Laird
Snerk! Gar is right; it infuriates me when people say things like "but everyone was anti-Semitic then." Well, no they weren't. Just for a start, an awful lot of Jews weren't anti-Semitic. (Some were, of course.)
Trudy Booth - Sep 19, 2002 1:45:29 am PDT #81 of 9843
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
Yes, those "everyones" are a disservice to the bold exceptions and an arrogant view of ourselves.
Daisy Jane - Sep 19, 2002 1:47:33 am PDT #82 of 9843
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
I was going to say something about having the courage of your convictions and bravery in the face of ingnorance and oppression, but smarter people than I have said it and I'm tired. Go look them up and pretend I said it.
evil jimi - Sep 19, 2002 3:58:41 am PDT #83 of 9843
Lurching from one disaster to the next.
I've never read any C. S. Lewis. t /Not wanting to be left out of the CSL conversation
evil jimi - Sep 19, 2002 4:07:00 am PDT #84 of 9843
Lurching from one disaster to the next.
whoa, this board doesn't take kindly to faux html tags :)