Yes, there is. There's a hurry, Xander. I'm dying...I may have as few as fifty years left.

Anya ,'Same Time, Same Place'


All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

Discussion of episodes currently airing in Un-American locations (anything that's aired in Australia is fair game), as well as anything else the Un-Americans feel like talking about or we feel like asking them. Please use the show discussion threads for any current-season discussion.

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Jim - Dec 05, 2002 2:58:45 am PST #714 of 9843
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

FF starts slow but I'm utterly hooked. It nails (and Joss has explicitly said he wanted to nail) my problem with most SF - the fact that the characters aren't Big Heroes Out To Change The Universe, they're just ordinary people getting by. Makes for more interesting drama.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Dec 05, 2002 3:00:53 am PST #715 of 9843
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

Stop! I want to watch this show! That's my problem with SF exactly, and if Joss has nailed it, I want to see this show!

t /bratty


Jon B. - Dec 05, 2002 6:13:12 am PST #716 of 9843
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Plus - No. Sound. In. Space.

I love that they do that right.


Nilly - Dec 05, 2002 6:19:04 am PST #717 of 9843
Swouncing

the fact that the characters aren't Big Heroes Out To Change The Universe, they're just ordinary people getting by.

Plus - No. Sound. In. Space.

I obviously haven't watched Firefly yet (but thanks to Jon and Jim and Fiona and John I now have a chance), but just from the reading of it those two things seemed connected somehow - like there's no need for a big dramatic sound effect when a spaceship moves through space because it's not a Big Moment thing that requires the 'big' score/sound, just people getting by. You won't have anything special for somebody getting into a car, and so - in that reality - the movement of a spaceship doesn't require it either. But only by realizing it's not a Big Heroes show can you allow yourself to remember the scientific fact that there's no sound in space.

Sorry, it all made some perfect sense in my mind a minute ago, and then I had to think about it in order to write it, and now it's not.


Jon B. - Dec 05, 2002 9:44:29 am PST #718 of 9843
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

it's not a Big Moment thing that requires the 'big' score/sound

Good thought, but they do often use music in place of a swoosh, roar, or whatever.


Hayden - Dec 05, 2002 2:19:49 pm PST #719 of 9843
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Hayden! We're good. B. is going through a very cute phase again. The only problem is that his sleep patterns are a bit random at the moment. Mostly he's waking up early (way too early, if you ask me - between 5 and 6am). Then yesterday he slept through until 8:30. Go figure. Anyway, I'm a wee bit tired these days.

Glad to hear Benno's good! Hope his sleep patterns regularize themselves out soon.


Trudy Booth - Dec 05, 2002 3:16:46 pm PST #720 of 9843
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Nilly, it's nice to see a science-head with a really poetic soul.


John H - Dec 05, 2002 4:03:43 pm PST #721 of 9843

I think the No Sound In Space thing was at its worst in Independence Day when not only did the spaceships make lots of noise going past the moon, but the noise and vibration is so loud that it vibrates the dust on the moon.

Three minutes into the movie and I'm already yelling at the screen.


Jim - Dec 06, 2002 2:55:30 am PST #722 of 9843
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

Yes, but it was a fantastic sight gag.


Noumenon - Dec 06, 2002 8:36:34 pm PST #723 of 9843
No other candidate is asking the hard questions, like "Did geophysicists assassinate Jim Henson?" or "Why is there hydrogen in America's water supply?" --defective yeti

Dave Barry's gift guide this year reviews a Nature's Platform Toilet Squatting Device that lets you convert a Western-style sit-down toilet seat to allow a more-natural squatting position. I've been wondering about this ever since I learned about it. I know men's urinary systems weaken and allow backups if they use bedpans too long instead of standing up, so sit-down toilets could well cause problems too. Have any unamericans had experience with the squatting style they want to share? John H, do they use that kind in Vietnam, or are they going porcelain?