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UTTAD - Jul 15, 2004 5:19:35 am PDT #7014 of 9843
Strawberry disappointment.

I thought the end of Angel was pretty much perfect.

As for H and A. Didn't Guy Pierce, Heath Ledger and Melissa WhatshernamethatsnowinAlias all appear in it? Not bad really. (This does not consitute a defense of H and A by the way).


Jim - Jul 15, 2004 5:20:34 am PDT #7015 of 9843
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

Guy Pierce, at least, was on the vastly superior Neighbours.


Jim - Jul 15, 2004 5:21:27 am PDT #7016 of 9843
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

And yeah, the end of Angel - and I was disappointed with scads of the last few episodes - was truly, truly wonderful.


UTTAD - Jul 15, 2004 5:24:25 am PDT #7017 of 9843
Strawberry disappointment.

By the power of imdb it would appear he appeared in both. Bet he likes to keep that quiet.


Angus G - Jul 15, 2004 5:25:55 am PDT #7018 of 9843
Roguish Laird

Hmmm, the one where they went to Italy was pretty rank, wasn't it? I thought some of the later episodes were pretty good though--eg the one where Connor came back (the first time). But then I lose my critical faculties when Connor is on screen.


Jim - Jul 15, 2004 5:28:12 am PDT #7019 of 9843
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

The connor one rocked, but I found the Evil Smurf Fred plot incredibly talky and static and Trekesque until the last episode. And I've scooped the memory of the Italy episode out of my brain with a spoon.


§ ita § - Jul 15, 2004 5:29:03 am PDT #7020 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I will love the Italy one for the "Ciao - ciao" moment, but the rest of it? Damn, people, we're in the home stretch. Can we not make buffoons out of our heroes?

I liked most of the final few episodes quite a bit -- by the end I was sadder than I'd expected. But they recovered a bit of the goodwill lost by the Saint!Cordy debacle.


Jim - Jul 15, 2004 5:32:46 am PDT #7021 of 9843
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

Can we not make buffoons out of our heroes?

And, ever worse - their villain? That's what rankled - playing Angelus for laughs this late in the day.


UTTAD - Jul 15, 2004 5:37:56 am PDT #7022 of 9843
Strawberry disappointment.

The Italy one had a better B plot than A plot, although it was worth the entrance money for the Ciao gag.


Angus G - Jul 15, 2004 5:40:34 am PDT #7023 of 9843
Roguish Laird

I loved Evil Smurf Fred with all her "hmmm, your human emotions are strange to me" Trekkiness, but yeah I guess that was mainly camp value. She was excellent in the last ep though.