The connor one rocked, but I found the Evil Smurf Fred plot incredibly talky and static and Trekesque until the last episode. And I've scooped the memory of the Italy episode out of my brain with a spoon.
Fred: So you don't worry that it's possible for someone to send out a biological or electronic trigger that effectively overrides your own sense of ideals and values and replaces them with an alternative coercive agenda that reduces you to a mindless meat puppet? Shopkeeper: Wow. People used to think that I was paranoid.
'Time Bomb'
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Jim - Jul 15, 2004 5:28:12 am PDT #7019 of 9843
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!
§ ita § - Jul 15, 2004 5:29:03 am PDT #7020 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I will love the Italy one for the "Ciao - ciao" moment, but the rest of it? Damn, people, we're in the home stretch. Can we not make buffoons out of our heroes?
I liked most of the final few episodes quite a bit -- by the end I was sadder than I'd expected. But they recovered a bit of the goodwill lost by the Saint!Cordy debacle.
Jim - Jul 15, 2004 5:32:46 am PDT #7021 of 9843
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!
Can we not make buffoons out of our heroes?
And, ever worse - their villain? That's what rankled - playing Angelus for laughs this late in the day.
UTTAD - Jul 15, 2004 5:37:56 am PDT #7022 of 9843
Strawberry disappointment.
The Italy one had a better B plot than A plot, although it was worth the entrance money for the Ciao gag.
Angus G - Jul 15, 2004 5:40:34 am PDT #7023 of 9843
Roguish Laird
I loved Evil Smurf Fred with all her "hmmm, your human emotions are strange to me" Trekkiness, but yeah I guess that was mainly camp value. She was excellent in the last ep though.
evil jimi - Jul 15, 2004 6:01:14 am PDT #7024 of 9843
Lurching from one disaster to the next.
I actually thought there was one more episode...
I was also suprised to realise this was the final episode. *sigh*
As for H and A. Didn't Guy Pierce, Heath Ledger and Melissa WhatshernamethatsnowinAlias all appear in it? Not bad really.
Well, considering how many TV shows and movies are made over here, it's not so surprising they--and others--appeared in one or both those soaps. Even good actors sometimes appear in crap. :)
UTTAD - Jul 15, 2004 6:01:49 am PDT #7025 of 9843
Strawberry disappointment.
I loved the Illyria character and thought they managed to avoid it being campy. I think the fact she was neither good nor bad, just so far beyond humans made her compelling.
The outfit wasn't bad either.
evil jimi - Jul 15, 2004 6:09:52 am PDT #7026 of 9843
Lurching from one disaster to the next.
I loved the Illyria character and thought they managed to avoid it being campy. I think the fact she was neither good nor bad, just so far beyond humans made her compelling.
The outfit wasn't bad either.
Scotsmen must think alike b/c I also liked the character--and her outfit. I didn't think her campy and she wasn't blue enough to be smurfy. Also, she killed the team spectacularly.
UTTAD - Jul 15, 2004 6:14:24 am PDT #7027 of 9843
Strawberry disappointment.
I won't put a lie to your words and will agree that the killing of the team, was brutal (and amusingly) spectacular.
Frankenbuddha - Jul 15, 2004 6:17:49 am PDT #7028 of 9843
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
I loved the Illyria character and thought they managed to avoid it being campy.
The b-story in the Italian episode was amazing, with Amy Acker going back and forth (and occasionally blurring) between Fred and Illyria. It deserved either its own episode, or a better a-plot (although much of that made me howl with laughter, even as I was angry we were getting a throw-away that late in the game).
I'll still take that episode over the WWII one. Other than some interesting character notes vis-a-vis Angel, that was pretty much a total waste of an episode for me. At least the Italian ep made good use of SOME of the supporting cast.