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All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

Discussion of episodes currently airing in Un-American locations (anything that's aired in Australia is fair game), as well as anything else the Un-Americans feel like talking about or we feel like asking them. Please use the show discussion threads for any current-season discussion.

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sumi - Oct 15, 2003 4:44:37 am PDT #6603 of 9843
Art Crawl!!!

So, just saw the 7th episode season 2 of MI-5 (Spooks) and it's the one with the kid with the photographic memory. They subtitled his dialogue and that of his brother and their friend (partner?). Was this just a special thing for the US showing?


UTTAD - Oct 15, 2003 4:50:51 am PDT #6604 of 9843
Strawberry disappointment.

Oh God please let the All Blacks beat England.


Angus G - Oct 15, 2003 4:54:38 am PDT #6605 of 9843
Roguish Laird

Was this just a special thing for the US showing?

Yes! How insulting. (To the Americans watching as much as anyone.)


§ ita § - Oct 15, 2003 4:56:21 am PDT #6606 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

They only did it for half the ep too. It was really annoying.


billytea - Oct 15, 2003 6:43:31 am PDT #6607 of 9843
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

For those who are interested, there's an article about the Booker prizewinner here. He sounds like a pretty interesting character in his own right.


erikaj - Oct 17, 2003 7:56:20 pm PDT #6608 of 9843
Always Anti-fascist!

I heart him for confessing to his massive debt.Seriously, it's the last taboo. Is that a dumb reason to read a book, or what?


Angus G - Oct 17, 2003 8:19:06 pm PDT #6609 of 9843
Roguish Laird

I'm not sure that massive debt is a taboo if you're an author! (On the contrary, massive wealth is...although maybe not in the US?)


erikaj - Oct 17, 2003 8:27:44 pm PDT #6610 of 9843
Always Anti-fascist!

I meant talking about it, not having it. Everybody has it, but you're not supposed to say anything. I should have been more clear...forgot my audience for a minute.


Angus G - Oct 17, 2003 11:17:37 pm PDT #6611 of 9843
Roguish Laird

No, I meant talking about it too, Erika! For some authors and other artists, particularly of the bohemian equation [edit: bohemian equation? I mean "persuasion" obv.], talking about how broke you are and how scandalously little you make from your art is part of the persona. (Which makes it a bit awkward when they actually start making money!)

Completely agree about debt being a taboo for the rest of us though.


CaBil - Oct 18, 2003 5:51:31 am PDT #6612 of 9843
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

Interestingly enough, some economists are starting to make noise that the American consumer has taken about as many of those 0% deals that are possible, and are now leveraged to the hilt. And since consumer spending has been what has been fueling the recovery, it should (in theory) hit a wall soon...