It's all about choices, Faith. The ones we make, and the ones we don't. Oh, and the consequences. Those are always fun.

Angelus ,'Smile Time'


All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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Angus G - Oct 17, 2003 8:19:06 pm PDT #6609 of 9843
Roguish Laird

I'm not sure that massive debt is a taboo if you're an author! (On the contrary, massive wealth is...although maybe not in the US?)


erikaj - Oct 17, 2003 8:27:44 pm PDT #6610 of 9843
Always Anti-fascist!

I meant talking about it, not having it. Everybody has it, but you're not supposed to say anything. I should have been more clear...forgot my audience for a minute.


Angus G - Oct 17, 2003 11:17:37 pm PDT #6611 of 9843
Roguish Laird

No, I meant talking about it too, Erika! For some authors and other artists, particularly of the bohemian equation [edit: bohemian equation? I mean "persuasion" obv.], talking about how broke you are and how scandalously little you make from your art is part of the persona. (Which makes it a bit awkward when they actually start making money!)

Completely agree about debt being a taboo for the rest of us though.


CaBil - Oct 18, 2003 5:51:31 am PDT #6612 of 9843
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

Interestingly enough, some economists are starting to make noise that the American consumer has taken about as many of those 0% deals that are possible, and are now leveraged to the hilt. And since consumer spending has been what has been fueling the recovery, it should (in theory) hit a wall soon...


Hil R. - Oct 18, 2003 8:57:48 am PDT #6613 of 9843
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

No, I meant talking about it too, Erika! For some authors and other artists, particularly of the bohemian equation [edit: bohemian equation? I mean "persuasion" obv.], talking about how broke you are and how scandalously little you make from your art is part of the persona. (Which makes it a bit awkward when they actually start making money!)

It seems like even with them, though, the line is "I'm so broke that they turned off my heat" or "I'm so broke that I'm living on ramen." Admitting to debt means admitting to buying things, which is pretty close to admitting to materialism, which is a rather unBohemian quality.


Trudy Booth - Oct 18, 2003 3:00:49 pm PDT #6614 of 9843
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

(Which makes it a bit awkward when they actually start making money!)

FWIW, that's a stigma I'm willing to live with.


evil jimi - Oct 18, 2003 5:39:15 pm PDT #6615 of 9843
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

Aussies ... obsessively fixate on your tv guide. Firefly should be starting on Channel 9 real soon! t /Eternal Optimist

Seriously, I just noticed 9 start screening Birds of Prey on Wednesday at 11:30PM, so I'm thinking Firefly won't be far behind -- they'll probably screen it after they run out of BoP eps. :)


§ ita § - Oct 18, 2003 5:53:06 pm PDT #6616 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

they'll probably screen it after they run out of BoP eps. :)

Which means ... don't blink.


evil jimi - Oct 18, 2003 6:17:35 pm PDT #6617 of 9843
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

my thoughts exactly ... though I just realised there were more episodes than I thought. According to Imdb they made 13 eps before the cancellation but I thought it was only 5 or 6.

Oh and if we needed any more proof of how fucked channel 7 has become; they throw Miracles on at 10:30PM and The Chronicle on at 11:30PM but they've brought back repeats of Tour of Duty at 9:30PM. Fuck knows what's up with that shit! *sigh*


Leigh - Oct 18, 2003 6:18:52 pm PDT #6618 of 9843
Nobody

Firefly should be starting on Channel 9 real soon!

Yeah, I think I'm firmly in the 'I'll believe that when I see it' camp. But one can hope.