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scrappy - Jul 22, 2003 11:57:50 am PDT #5844 of 9843

Nobody

Subtitles just translate whoever is speaking. Captions have to also give salient sound effects and identify who is speaking and sometimes tone of voice. You don't realize how much information a film gives through sound until you have to determine which sounds are needed for the deaf community to fully enjoy the film.

And yes, captions edit for reading rate, which is usually 240 wpm. This includes taking out repeated words, ums and wells, changing verb tenses (from "I am going to" to "I will" and in extreme cases removing whole phrases. We try to do it verbatim whenever we can, but it's sometimes impossible.

Fay - Jul 22, 2003 12:12:47 pm PDT #5845 of 9843

"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Show Me Love

Oooh! aka Fucking Amaal, I think? Or something like that? I heard good things about this.

meara - Jul 22, 2003 12:25:10 pm PDT #5846 of 9843

Oooh! aka Fucking Amaal, I think?

Yep! It was cute. Apparently very similar to another one I haven't seen that came out around the same time...but swedish!! The girls in it are LITTLE though--the one looked to be all of 12 (she was supposed to be 16). Which was rather disconcerting.

Kassto - Jul 22, 2003 8:07:03 pm PDT #5847 of 9843

`He combed his hair, Put on a shirt that his mother made, And he went on the air...'

Wish me luck, peoples. Three and a half hours till the big Buffy finale shows here. Watching it all on my vulnerable ownsome, with very mixed feelings. Maybe I should've got in a bottle of port...

By the way, just started watching my new season 6 DVDs -- halfway through Bargaining, and I discover so many little extra bits left in that weren't shown on TV or on video. Scenes are either longer or in one case there's a whole extra scene I've never seen before -- on the way to the PTA meeting, Buffybot and Dawn stop outside the school building to look at a student display of a model town. There's some talk and Buffybot asks what race of humans are small enough to live in this town. Has anyone else noticed this -- is it all through season 6 DVDs?

§ ita § - Jul 22, 2003 8:07:45 pm PDT #5848 of 9843

Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Has anyone else noticed this -- is it all through season 6 DVDs?

I'm pretty sure that aired here ... how odd.

Kassto - Jul 22, 2003 8:12:13 pm PDT #5849 of 9843

`He combed his hair, Put on a shirt that his mother made, And he went on the air...'

Well, if that did air in the States, it makes me wonder how much else I've missed out on, and what cuts have been made at this end. So far I have been just watching bits and pieces from my season 2 and 5 DVDs -- now I'll have to go through them with a fine-tooth comb.

brenda m - Jul 22, 2003 8:17:47 pm PDT #5850 of 9843

If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Kassto, I very much enjoyed the finale, as did most of us here, despite some similar reservations about the season as a whole. Have fun with it.

I think I remember that scene too. Although sometimes people post bits that were cut from the scripts, and the voices are so true that after a while it seems like you actually saw it. I don't think this is one of those, but could be.

§ ita § - Jul 22, 2003 8:25:59 pm PDT #5851 of 9843

Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Kassto, I thought the finale wasn't enough to fix what had pissed me off, but it was true to Buffy.

And I cried.

Trudy Booth - Jul 22, 2003 8:27:48 pm PDT #5852 of 9843

Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

How long until the finale? And is this the last batch to get it?

JohnSweden - Jul 22, 2003 8:29:12 pm PDT #5853 of 9843

I can't even.

Ditto me, but I'm a big softie about stuff like something that has been hugely important to me for SEVEN YEARS ending.

Ahem.

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