t looks at flapping noisy thing. Looks at Betsy. Blinks
I hate to break it to you, oh impotent one, but you're not the big bad anymore, you're not even the kind of naughty.
Xander ,'Showtime'
All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American
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amyparker - Feb 03, 2003 2:29:47 pm PST #1685 of 9843
You've got friends to have good times with. When you need to share the trauma of a badly-written book with someone, that's when you go to family.
Betsy HP - Feb 03, 2003 2:30:03 pm PST #1686 of 9843
If I only had a brain...
t starts building Nest of Denial.
Typo Boy - Feb 03, 2003 3:36:37 pm PST #1687 of 9843
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
Yeah, I have family stories I'd love to track down. For example my Grandfather was a tanner who fled Russia after killing a Cossack. I'd like to know more - but that is the complete extent of the family story. So was it political.? There were terrorist Jewish bunds in Russia at the time so not impossilbe. Was it personal? Cossacks pretty much had a license to do anything they wanted to Jews - so that is possible too. And you know, a tanner named lipowvitz had to flee Russia around 1905 or 1910 for killing a Cossack; that does not narrow it down as much as you might think. Tanning was not an uncommon profession for Jews in Russia; Lipowvitz was not an uncommon name (especially since we can't rule Lipowvitzky and other varetations.) And relations between Jews and Cossacks were not good. Rather like an Australian of Irish ancestroy with a common Irish last name (O'Conner perhaps or is that not that common?) trying to track an ancestor who was deported to Australia for killing an Englishman.
Zoe Finch - Feb 03, 2003 3:52:11 pm PST #1688 of 9843
Gradh tu fhein
Scotland just. didn't. want. us
Scotland weeps for the memory of her lost children.
Betsy HP - Feb 03, 2003 3:56:58 pm PST #1689 of 9843
If I only had a brain...
We're not lost. We're standing. right. here.
Zoe Finch - Feb 03, 2003 3:58:21 pm PST #1690 of 9843
Gradh tu fhein
Yay! Scotland does the dance of joy :-)
Caroma - Feb 03, 2003 4:11:22 pm PST #1691 of 9843
Hello! I must be going.
What BHP said. The worst excesses of what we would nowadays call human rights violations have been cleaned up in most of Europe. But on the other side of the coin, that's another reason Americans are shocked and disgusted when anti-semitism and racism and junk like that crop up again in France and Russia. Brings back a lot of bad memories, and among some folks I know an unfortunate tendency to say "The hell with learning about the Europeans, they're still stuck in the same old grooves, and why should we listen to a word they say about _____?"
Caroma - Feb 03, 2003 4:17:15 pm PST #1692 of 9843
Hello! I must be going.
Mmm, Timbits look great.
I had an eclair up there that was amazing.
Hil R. - Feb 03, 2003 5:09:59 pm PST #1693 of 9843
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
For example my Grandfather was a tanner who fled Russia after killing a Cossack. I'd like to know more - but that is the complete extent of the family story.
If you have any information at all, you can probably find more. Was he a bundist? They kept some records. If you know the year he came, or even the approximate year, and what port he came into, you might be able to find records. (Of course, a lot of it depends on the town he came from. There are some branches of my family where I can only trace them back to the boat, because the town records are just gone.)
edit: if it was Ellis Island, the best place to start might be here.
evil jimi - Feb 03, 2003 5:46:06 pm PST #1694 of 9843
Lurching from one disaster to the next.
Re the earlier discussion about the mythology blah blah...
... just to throw the vampire amongst the virgins ... BtVS owes more to Asian vamp mythology/bullshit than it does to European, since it is a rip-off of an Anime title. Just saying, y'know.
Of course, it also owes more to Phlobotin mythology than anything else.