Tracy: 'When you can't run, you crawl... and when you can't crawl, when you can't do that--' Zoe: 'You find someone to carry you.'

'The Message'


All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

Discussion of episodes currently airing in Un-American locations (anything that's aired in Australia is fair game), as well as anything else the Un-Americans feel like talking about or we feel like asking them. Please use the show discussion threads for any current-season discussion.

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Zoe Finch - Feb 03, 2003 3:52:11 pm PST #1688 of 9843
Gradh tu fhein

Scotland just. didn't. want. us

Scotland weeps for the memory of her lost children.


Betsy HP - Feb 03, 2003 3:56:58 pm PST #1689 of 9843
If I only had a brain...

We're not lost. We're standing. right. here.


Zoe Finch - Feb 03, 2003 3:58:21 pm PST #1690 of 9843
Gradh tu fhein

Yay! Scotland does the dance of joy :-)


Caroma - Feb 03, 2003 4:11:22 pm PST #1691 of 9843
Hello! I must be going.

What BHP said. The worst excesses of what we would nowadays call human rights violations have been cleaned up in most of Europe. But on the other side of the coin, that's another reason Americans are shocked and disgusted when anti-semitism and racism and junk like that crop up again in France and Russia. Brings back a lot of bad memories, and among some folks I know an unfortunate tendency to say "The hell with learning about the Europeans, they're still stuck in the same old grooves, and why should we listen to a word they say about _____?"


Caroma - Feb 03, 2003 4:17:15 pm PST #1692 of 9843
Hello! I must be going.

Mmm, Timbits look great.

I had an eclair up there that was amazing.


Hil R. - Feb 03, 2003 5:09:59 pm PST #1693 of 9843
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

For example my Grandfather was a tanner who fled Russia after killing a Cossack. I'd like to know more - but that is the complete extent of the family story.

If you have any information at all, you can probably find more. Was he a bundist? They kept some records. If you know the year he came, or even the approximate year, and what port he came into, you might be able to find records. (Of course, a lot of it depends on the town he came from. There are some branches of my family where I can only trace them back to the boat, because the town records are just gone.)

edit: if it was Ellis Island, the best place to start might be here.


evil jimi - Feb 03, 2003 5:46:06 pm PST #1694 of 9843
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

Re the earlier discussion about the mythology blah blah...

... just to throw the vampire amongst the virgins ... BtVS owes more to Asian vamp mythology/bullshit than it does to European, since it is a rip-off of an Anime title. Just saying, y'know.

Of course, it also owes more to Phlobotin mythology than anything else.


Allan Lang - Feb 03, 2003 6:22:38 pm PST #1695 of 9843
'And on that tragic day, an era came to its inevitable end.' That's all there is.

BtVS owes more to Asian vamp mythology/bullshit than it does to European, since it is a rip-off of an Anime title. Just saying, y'know.

Didn't the 1992 Buffy precede the anime?


CaBil - Feb 03, 2003 6:38:53 pm PST #1696 of 9843
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

Which anime?

If you are talking about cute high school girls killing monsters, while that is practically its whole genre...


evil jimi - Feb 03, 2003 6:45:33 pm PST #1697 of 9843
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

Didn't the 1992 Buffy precede the anime?

No, the Anime goes back a long way before '92.

Which anime?

If you are talking about cute high school girls killing monsters, while that is practically its whole genre...

I realise that but there is one title in particular (the name of which escapes me) that bears closest resemblance to the concept of BtVS. It was first mentioned way back on the first TT thread[s]. I'd have to ask a mate of mine if he knows what it the particular title is b/c he knows more about Anime than me. I'm not a big fan of the genre -- and have become even less of a fan thanks to the likes of Pokemon and Dragonball Z et al.