I wanna hurt you, but I can't resist the sinister attraction of your cold and muscular body!

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All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

Discussion of episodes currently airing in Un-American locations (anything that's aired in Australia is fair game), as well as anything else the Un-Americans feel like talking about or we feel like asking them. Please use the show discussion threads for any current-season discussion.

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billytea - Feb 02, 2003 9:36:20 pm PST #1629 of 9843
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

billytea ... it's my understanding that the first "narrative film of any significant length" pre-dates that by around 10 years. Moreover, it was in "colour" no less. The Salvation Army in Australia created a movie about the bible some time in the late 1890s.

More about the Salvos' early film work here. It appears the work in question wsa Soldiers of the Cross, first airing in 1900. However, it appears to have been more an illustrated lecture than a film; it consisted of a number of separate 90-second films augmented with slides. Still a great achievement.


§ ita § - Feb 02, 2003 9:36:28 pm PST #1630 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Didn't Coca Cola trademark the shape of their bottle?

Honestly, green and yellow petrol company = BP to me. I can see why that's a defensible position.


Hil R. - Feb 02, 2003 9:38:07 pm PST #1631 of 9843
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Didn't Coca Cola trademark the shape of their bottle?

I'm pretty sure they did. I remember reading somewhere that the bottle was designed so that it would be recognizable even if it was broken. (It didn't explain why this was a good thing, though. Yeah, I want the kind of soda that come in that broken bottle!)


brenda m - Feb 02, 2003 9:38:38 pm PST #1632 of 9843
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I can't be the only one who's had scenes from Coming to America going through my head through this whole discussion?

[Movie where one of the supporting characters is in constant legal battles with McDonalds - he runs a restaurant called McDonnell's, featuring the Big Mc.]


§ ita § - Feb 02, 2003 9:38:50 pm PST #1633 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I want the kind of soda that come in that broken bottle!

That's when you know you should drop to the ground and drink the puddle.


evil jimi - Feb 02, 2003 9:39:10 pm PST #1634 of 9843
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

Didn't Coca Cola trademark the shape of their bottle?

Better you should ask, didn't Coca Cola forget to renew that trademark and are now fighting to win it back from the person who inadvertantly gained the rights to it? :)


Rebecca Lizard - Feb 02, 2003 9:39:31 pm PST #1635 of 9843
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

Shawn is so. goddamn. cool.

OK-- now I am just being argumentative, but isn't the primary "myth" or "trope" or what have you that Buffy sprang from NOT the vampire myth, but rather the horror movie cliche that the young pretty girl will get killed by the monster? But turned on its head? A youngish cliche to be sure, but I think the vampires were just sort of convenient.

[...]

What I find rather interesting is that the myth of vampires in the Buffyverse is the same as the real vampires in the Buffyverse. The bumpy face, etc. Until Tabula Rasa, I thought their myth would be more like our (white face, cape, turns into a bat, walk around with fangs).

I'm just wroding Sophia tonight. I know this has nothing to do with the original subject, but I think they're beautiful points.

Pull out! Pull out! You've struck cartilage!
(far side)

Nou, I think you broke me.

[something that's already been addressed but I'm saying my response anyway because I'm just like that!:]

I guess I have a problem with a foreign company challenging the right of an actual McDonald highlander to use their clan name.

Well, dude, I think that a lot of Americans would have trouble with that too. And I also think it's an issue the Buffistas have no control over. Big corporations. We don't run them! And so I'm having a slight amount of trouble seeing how this has anything to do with why our having the name "UnAmericans" is bad.

I mean, I don't really like the title "Bitches", I'll admit right now. But that's my personal, private bias; and I've got no right to go tell the people who have been Bitches for years that they ought to change it because I don't like it, or because some other, new, people might be offended by it. It's just not my place at all.


Angus G - Feb 02, 2003 9:39:55 pm PST #1636 of 9843
Roguish Laird

Didn't Coca Cola trademark the shape of their bottle?

They also trademarked the "Dynamic Ribbon Design". Doesn't anyone else read the small print on drink containers?


bon bon - Feb 02, 2003 9:40:12 pm PST #1637 of 9843
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I'm sure they trademarked that particular shape. One of the more ridiculous cases I ever came across was the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Museum trying to trademark the shape of their museum and preventing people from thereby selling pictures of the museum. I mean, it IS distinctive, but not for THAT purpose. They lost, thankfully.


Angus G - Feb 02, 2003 9:43:00 pm PST #1638 of 9843
Roguish Laird

Just a suggestion: I think the point about our undying love for the term "Unamericans" has been well and truly made by now.