Zoe, - personal details deleted. Email me if you missed them -

I don't know Dunfermline very well, but the Perth to Edinburgh bus passes through it.

Ed. Uni or Heriot Watt?

Ed. Uni. My Dad used to teach at Napier. No connection to Heriot.

Er, just for the record: My parents were victims of the McCarthy Era. Actually lost everything and had to start over because of it. And a great many of my family's closest friends suffered in similar ways. And I never for a moment found the title even slightly offensive. But, you know, that's just me.

Ooh, I have people in Dunfermline. Neat. I was six or seven the only time I was there, though.

ALL my non-sibling relatives are UnAmerican. Hell, actually, when push comes to shove, the only USian-by-birth in my generation are my brother and myself.

I *love* the UnAmerican title. It's part of Buffista culture. Lots of things that are part of Buffista culture take a little getting used to, seeing as the language is almost its own dialect at this point.

I would hate to see it lost because it might cause some "eeps" to the unfamiliar-with-our-ways. It's a term in context which I love as much as I love NonUSian.

I'm proud to be an Un-American.

You're a vampire. Oh, I'm sorry. Is that an offensive term? Should I say 'Undead American'?
--When She Was Bad

I'm proud to be an Un-American.

t Susan valiantly fights the urge to filk

I love UnAmerican, because it's co-opting the enemy's language. But I'll leave it up to the Unnies. You'll always be t insult appropriate insult to me anyway.

Yes the UnAmerican reference really bridled me.

Um. Tough?

t /offensive!Fay

With all due respect, I think that the irony is clear enough - much like the title of the show itself. Some people will shy away from a show called Buffy the Vampire Slayer because they won't see that it's ironic. Some people may also shy away from a thread with this particular title, but I don't think that the board should be expected to dumb down to accomodate anyone's inability to pick up on cultural reference points. At the end of the day this board is predominantly American and the Jossverse shows are American and crammed with popular culture references which are primarily US-based. Moreover the board is pretty much characterised by a blend of popular culture and high culture and an awareness of things like McCarthyism - as is the Jossverse itself.

I pretty much think those of us based in the UK/elsewhere need to just suck it up if any US cultural references go over our heads. Given that the thread title was coined by UnAmericans, given the conscious cultural references of the term "Buffistas" itself (with which "UnAmerican" chimes) and given the generally supportive and tongue-in-cheek ethos of the board, I kind of think this is your problem, Zoe.

Irony - it doesn't just mean "like iron".

...Er. That would be a generally supportive ethos not being demonstrated by me right now, obviously. Still, the rest of the folks here, who are far nicer and fluffier than me, are generally a supportive bunch, and not likely to go around making genuinely bigoted thread titles.

and with that Fay vanished in a puff of smoke, having failed quite spectacularly to play the diplomatic card.