frankly it's a phrase I'm rather proud of.

As well you should be. I wouldn't have thought to use it as my term of choice if I hadn't seen it here.

Are you now or have you ever been: UnAmerican buffistas

Love it.

OK-- I am laughing even harder now, becuase I just realized it is not only a McCarthy ref but an Angel episode (dim this morning).

What Jim said.

Well, other than coming up with the phrase, because I didn't - he did. But other than that, what Jim said.

"Are you now or have you ever been: UnAmerican buffistas"

Love it, too.

[Edit: resisting the urge to point that 'buffistas' should be capitalized]

[Another Edit: failing]

Nilly, if you didn't point out capitalization, you wouldn't be Nilly. Which would be tragic.

Awww, thanks, Jim.

It's worth mentioning that there's no capitalization in Hebrew, so I can only spend my nit-picking (about this) in English. In Hebrew I nit-pick about things that don't exist in English (like gender in adjectives and stuff like that).

With the help of context and explanation and longterm familiarity with Buffistadom it's fine, really, but for new people interested in the site it is unwelcoming. Might as well say: poor, perverted, annoying people you're not one of us! I was hoping for a more friendly title, maybe for the next thread?

Buffy and Angel are huge in the UK, Australia and Europe (birthplace of vampires) there could be many more people on this thread. IJS.

There's no way to calculate how many people came, looked, and left because they were turned off by the title. So far, though, this board (and sometimes this thread) has one of the most international mixes of a board grown out of a US concern that I've ever seen.

I don't know where new users come from (for those who came outside of the Firefly Influx of 2002). I have no idea how an unAmerican finds this place, and how clear it is (title notwithstanding) that there's potential for ME discussion that's not timed to the N American schedule.

I was hoping for a more friendly title, maybe for the next thread?

Propose it when the time comes.

I don't know where new users come from (for those who came outside of the Firefly Influx of 2002). I have no idea how an unAmerican finds this place, and how clear it is (title notwithstanding) that there's potential for ME discussion that's not timed to the N American schedule.

A few "in my case" answers, just in case you're intrested: I came here by accident, from various links in the internet fandom at large. I hit the page- links page first, I think- several times before I actually realised it might be of intrest to me. I'm guessing that most unAmericans find this place roughly the same way Americans do. I didn't have the (American) background to the thread, but it was clear that- unlike the other boards I've visited- people who weren't part of the American cliche were a bit more accomodated than the occassional 'spoiler free thread'.

Just so you know.

International mix is good. For a vampire based story I'd love to hear the central European take on it all. Perhaps I came across to harshly when I said "offensive" I think maybe the word I needed was "ambiguous" non-native English speakers and people like me who are native, native English speakers but don't have access to all the cultural references won't necessarily read the same. Anya was being snarky when she said it after all.

I'm worried about rumours that Angel is going to end after this season cos I don't know how I'll live without my weekly dose. The more popular the boards are the more support there is for the show, and the safer S5 is.

Edit: for the record I've checked out a few places and this board is far and away the best -although Angelus is being tortured in a padded cell over at theWB which is kinda fun.