Zoe: Don't think it's a good spot, sir. She still has the advantage over us. Mal: Everyone always does. That's what makes us special.

'Serenity'


All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

Discussion of episodes currently airing in Un-American locations (anything that's aired in Australia is fair game), as well as anything else the Un-Americans feel like talking about or we feel like asking them. Please use the show discussion threads for any current-season discussion.

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Zoe Finch - Feb 02, 2003 8:47:35 am PST #1369 of 9843
Gradh tu fhein

"Un-American" has resonance for some USAnians because of Senator Joe McCarthy's Un-American Activities Committee witchhunts of the 1950s, in which case it's almost Spartacus-like to be branded an Un-American. (cf. Angel's "Are You Now or Have You Ever Been...?")

Yes the UnAmerican reference really bridled me.

Slight change how about: Non-American Buffistas: We gave the words and the myths.?


Am-Chau Yarkona - Feb 02, 2003 8:57:13 am PST #1370 of 9843
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

Um. American Cultural background I was missing there. Zoe, is this a campaign to have the title changed- which may or may not be possible- or a suggestion for the next thread?


Sophia Brooks - Feb 02, 2003 8:58:11 am PST #1371 of 9843
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Haven't y'all been "Un-American" since TT?


§ ita § - Feb 02, 2003 8:58:44 am PST #1372 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I *think* (and someone please correct me if I'm culturally off base) that UnAmerican has acheived a backhanded non-negative status, since it was used as an insult by People We Don't Like.


Sophia Brooks - Feb 02, 2003 8:59:40 am PST #1373 of 9843
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

That was my take on the Un-American name, too.


Sophia Brooks - Feb 02, 2003 9:00:12 am PST #1374 of 9843
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Of course, I'm non-UnAmerican, at least until we can be prosecuted for not supporting war.

edit-- or missing a lot of "p's"


§ ita § - Feb 02, 2003 9:00:48 am PST #1375 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Yeah, I'm not sure what the root of Zoe's discontent is. I describe myself as UnAmerican on a regular basis.


Hil R. - Feb 02, 2003 9:02:04 am PST #1376 of 9843
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Yes the UnAmerican reference really bridled me.

From the first UnAmerican thread:

Jim Eaton: True. Plus I couldn't resist the title. I'm hoping for loads of communist Slayerites to invade.

Angus Gordon: Well, not only do you have "Unamerican", but "Buffista" also has that Marxist-Leninist mountain-dwelling guerilla army ring to it, don't you think? But, like, a guerilla army with stakes.

Although, as we know, the Scooby gang are actually anarchists, so no bona fide communist would spit on them.

I like the "UnAmerican Buffista" reference, for exactly the reason that Angus cited there. Does anyone else have a problem with it? (I suppose I have no vote, seeing as how I've been out of the US for a total of less than a month of the 22 years of my life.)


Theodosia - Feb 02, 2003 9:04:57 am PST #1377 of 9843
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

t counting up days spent in England, Spain, Mexico, plus a couple in Canada I might have as much as a month of credit there!


amych - Feb 02, 2003 9:04:58 am PST #1378 of 9843
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I describe myself as UnAmerican on a regular basis.

As do a lot of long-time Buffistas. I'm an un-un-American, so maybe I should stay out of this, but as much as I've seen it used as a self-description within this community, I've also always shared ita's and Sophia's take on the name.