Gunn: The final score can't be rigged. I don't care how many players you grease, that last shot always comes up a question mark. But here's the thing. You never know when you're taking it. It could be when you're duking it out with the Legion of Doom, or just crossing the street deciding where to have brunch. So you just treat it like it was up to you—the world in balance—'cause you never know when it is.

'Underneath'


All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

Discussion of episodes currently airing in Un-American locations (anything that's aired in Australia is fair game), as well as anything else the Un-Americans feel like talking about or we feel like asking them. Please use the show discussion threads for any current-season discussion.

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Am-Chau Yarkona - Feb 02, 2003 8:57:13 am PST #1370 of 9843
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

Um. American Cultural background I was missing there. Zoe, is this a campaign to have the title changed- which may or may not be possible- or a suggestion for the next thread?


Sophia Brooks - Feb 02, 2003 8:58:11 am PST #1371 of 9843
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Haven't y'all been "Un-American" since TT?


§ ita § - Feb 02, 2003 8:58:44 am PST #1372 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I *think* (and someone please correct me if I'm culturally off base) that UnAmerican has acheived a backhanded non-negative status, since it was used as an insult by People We Don't Like.


Sophia Brooks - Feb 02, 2003 8:59:40 am PST #1373 of 9843
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

That was my take on the Un-American name, too.


Sophia Brooks - Feb 02, 2003 9:00:12 am PST #1374 of 9843
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Of course, I'm non-UnAmerican, at least until we can be prosecuted for not supporting war.

edit-- or missing a lot of "p's"


§ ita § - Feb 02, 2003 9:00:48 am PST #1375 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Yeah, I'm not sure what the root of Zoe's discontent is. I describe myself as UnAmerican on a regular basis.


Hil R. - Feb 02, 2003 9:02:04 am PST #1376 of 9843
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Yes the UnAmerican reference really bridled me.

From the first UnAmerican thread:

Jim Eaton: True. Plus I couldn't resist the title. I'm hoping for loads of communist Slayerites to invade.

Angus Gordon: Well, not only do you have "Unamerican", but "Buffista" also has that Marxist-Leninist mountain-dwelling guerilla army ring to it, don't you think? But, like, a guerilla army with stakes.

Although, as we know, the Scooby gang are actually anarchists, so no bona fide communist would spit on them.

I like the "UnAmerican Buffista" reference, for exactly the reason that Angus cited there. Does anyone else have a problem with it? (I suppose I have no vote, seeing as how I've been out of the US for a total of less than a month of the 22 years of my life.)


Theodosia - Feb 02, 2003 9:04:57 am PST #1377 of 9843
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

t counting up days spent in England, Spain, Mexico, plus a couple in Canada I might have as much as a month of credit there!


amych - Feb 02, 2003 9:04:58 am PST #1378 of 9843
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I describe myself as UnAmerican on a regular basis.

As do a lot of long-time Buffistas. I'm an un-un-American, so maybe I should stay out of this, but as much as I've seen it used as a self-description within this community, I've also always shared ita's and Sophia's take on the name.


Jim - Feb 02, 2003 9:05:28 am PST #1379 of 9843
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

The term UnAmerican is a specific joke about McCarthy. ita, I'm sorry if I offended with my us-ing. For what it's worth, the UnAmerican thing comes from the original title (The UnAmerican Buffista support group), and if it offends anyone, well, that's odd but fair enough. New title-wise, I'd go further and vote for: "Are you now or have you ever been: UnAmerican buffistas" - because that includes those UnAms (Billytea, ita) who are in the belly of the beast. Speaking personally, I'd hate to see the UnAmerican term vanish as much as I would the word "Buffista" - it's how I think of this part of the boards, it's always been how we describe ourselves (not-american doesn't have the right sense of lighthearted mockery & snook-cocking) and frankly it's a phrase I'm rather proud of.