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All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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erikaj - Dec 19, 2002 2:00:20 pm PST #1056 of 9843
Always Anti-fascist!

Heh. But "Hush" is a very good episode. I'd have to say it's one of my favorites(Maybe I should put the "u" in, in UnAmericans)


billytea - Dec 19, 2002 2:01:06 pm PST #1057 of 9843
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Stronger = becoming a geek who is Whedon's slavish minion?

Damn typos. Sorry. That 'o' should've been an 'a'.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Dec 19, 2002 2:04:48 pm PST #1058 of 9843
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

That 'o' should've been an 'a'.

That make a lot more sense, billytea. I'm strange rather than strong. Yay! (Though not a ho.)


billytea - Dec 19, 2002 2:07:40 pm PST #1059 of 9843
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

A newspaper correction from the Tulsa Gusher (no, really):

There was a typo in lawyer Ed Morrison's ad. His logo is: "Your case is no stronger than your attorney", not "stranger".


Rebecca Lizard - Dec 19, 2002 3:29:23 pm PST #1060 of 9843
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

That's a tagline, not a logo!

Anyway-- I didn't think that OMWF was a very strong ep, actually, when you bar the musical bits and just look at it as a plot.


Madrigal Costello - Dec 19, 2002 3:36:04 pm PST #1061 of 9843
It's a remora, dimwit.

Well, most musicals aren't very much on plot. There are some exceptions like "Chess" and "My Fair Lady", but most are pretty much just songs with bits of dialog that try fill the gaps. OMWF felt like Whedon was playing with the traditional musical - having the traditional kiss at the end, the big secret with its revelation, the damsel in distress - but he hit all of those from an odd angle.

"Hush" is a definite must-see. It's one of the few that's made me laugh out loud, and it also does the soft drowning sort of creepiness very well.


Fay - Dec 19, 2002 3:40:02 pm PST #1062 of 9843
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Hush is very Tim Burton. VERY Tim Burton, both visually and auditorially. Audibly. Audi - oh, fuck. It sounds like it's a Danny Elfman score. Although I think it's Christopher Beck?


Madrigal Costello - Dec 19, 2002 3:42:39 pm PST #1063 of 9843
It's a remora, dimwit.

Oh definitely Tim Burton, though the Gentlemen had me first thinking of Gorey. It's this horrible dark gothic British nasty ancient evil but so polite and so happy and so proper.


John H - Dec 19, 2002 3:51:11 pm PST #1064 of 9843

I didn't think that OMWF was a very strong ep, actually, when you bar the musical bits and just look at it as a plot.

The whole thing about OMWF is that there's something unsaid, and it comes out in OMWF because it's an episode about people suddenly magically voicing their deep unspoken thoughts. So it has a great marriage of form and content, like Hush.

the Gentlemen had me first thinking of Gorey

I never noticed it till I heard the commentary, but there's a strong element of Mister Burns from the Simpsons in there too.


Madrigal Costello - Dec 19, 2002 3:53:39 pm PST #1065 of 9843
It's a remora, dimwit.

When the ep first aired all the critics were calling them a cross between Mr. Burns and the bad guys in "Dark City."