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Anyway-- I didn't think that OMWF was a very strong ep, actually, when you bar the musical bits and just look at it as a plot.
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Rebecca Lizard - Dec 19, 2002 3:29:23 pm PST #1060 of 9843
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket
Madrigal Costello - Dec 19, 2002 3:36:04 pm PST #1061 of 9843
It's a remora, dimwit.
Well, most musicals aren't very much on plot. There are some exceptions like "Chess" and "My Fair Lady", but most are pretty much just songs with bits of dialog that try fill the gaps. OMWF felt like Whedon was playing with the traditional musical - having the traditional kiss at the end, the big secret with its revelation, the damsel in distress - but he hit all of those from an odd angle.
"Hush" is a definite must-see. It's one of the few that's made me laugh out loud, and it also does the soft drowning sort of creepiness very well.
Fay - Dec 19, 2002 3:40:02 pm PST #1062 of 9843
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.
Hush is very Tim Burton. VERY Tim Burton, both visually and auditorially. Audibly. Audi - oh, fuck. It sounds like it's a Danny Elfman score. Although I think it's Christopher Beck?
Madrigal Costello - Dec 19, 2002 3:42:39 pm PST #1063 of 9843
It's a remora, dimwit.
Oh definitely Tim Burton, though the Gentlemen had me first thinking of Gorey. It's this horrible dark gothic British nasty ancient evil but so polite and so happy and so proper.
John H - Dec 19, 2002 3:51:11 pm PST #1064 of 9843
I didn't think that OMWF was a very strong ep, actually, when you bar the musical bits and just look at it as a plot.
The whole thing about OMWF is that there's something unsaid, and it comes out in OMWF because it's an episode about people suddenly magically voicing their deep unspoken thoughts. So it has a great marriage of form and content, like Hush.
the Gentlemen had me first thinking of Gorey
I never noticed it till I heard the commentary, but there's a strong element of Mister Burns from the Simpsons in there too.
Madrigal Costello - Dec 19, 2002 3:53:39 pm PST #1065 of 9843
It's a remora, dimwit.
When the ep first aired all the critics were calling them a cross between Mr. Burns and the bad guys in "Dark City."
John H - Dec 19, 2002 4:02:27 pm PST #1066 of 9843
the bad guys in "Dark City."
They certainly owed something to that look. That's a great movie, even if it could do with a bit of a trim.
Madrigal Costello - Dec 19, 2002 4:09:28 pm PST #1067 of 9843
It's a remora, dimwit.
Putting Jennifer Connelly in that dress made up for most of the problems.
plasmo - Dec 19, 2002 4:47:13 pm PST #1068 of 9843
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Madrigal, so true! I love that dress.
Sue - Dec 19, 2002 7:46:32 pm PST #1069 of 9843
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When the ep first aired all the critics were calling them a cross between Mr. Burns and the bad guys in "Dark City."
I think Joss himself cited Mr. Burns and Nosferatu as influneces on The Gentleman. I'm not sure about Dark City.