When the ep first aired all the critics were calling them a cross between Mr. Burns and the bad guys in "Dark City."
Dawn: I think a date should be in a real fancy restaurant, then champagne at a night club with a floor show, then ballroom dancing. Joyce: Unfortunately, we're not dating in a movie from the thirties.
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Madrigal Costello - Dec 19, 2002 3:53:39 pm PST #1065 of 9843
It's a remora, dimwit.
John H - Dec 19, 2002 4:02:27 pm PST #1066 of 9843
the bad guys in "Dark City."
They certainly owed something to that look. That's a great movie, even if it could do with a bit of a trim.
Madrigal Costello - Dec 19, 2002 4:09:28 pm PST #1067 of 9843
It's a remora, dimwit.
Putting Jennifer Connelly in that dress made up for most of the problems.
plasmo - Dec 19, 2002 4:47:13 pm PST #1068 of 9843
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Madrigal, so true! I love that dress.
Sue - Dec 19, 2002 7:46:32 pm PST #1069 of 9843
hip deep in pie
When the ep first aired all the critics were calling them a cross between Mr. Burns and the bad guys in "Dark City."
I think Joss himself cited Mr. Burns and Nosferatu as influneces on The Gentleman. I'm not sure about Dark City.
John H - Dec 19, 2002 8:31:34 pm PST #1070 of 9843
That's what I meant about "until I heard the commentary" -- Joss says the floating thing was from childhood nightmares, and he personally names Mr Burns and Nosferatu, and some other stuff, but not Dark City.
John H - Dec 19, 2002 8:37:04 pm PST #1071 of 9843
From a commentary transcript:
What I was going for very specifically with the Gentlemen was a Victorian kind of feel, because that was very creepy and fairy tale like. The politeness, the suits, the crazies who were like the crazies in the asylum in Dracula, the metal teeth still representing science, defeating cavities. Everything is very Victorian era, and for me that bespeaks total creepiness.
When I designed them, I was drawing from everything that had ever frightened me, including the fellow from my dream, Nosferatu, Pinhead, Mr Burns, anything that gave that creepy feeling. I wanted guys that will remind people of what scared them when they were children, and I believe what scared us when we were little children, were old people. It’s the idea of age.
meara - Dec 19, 2002 9:58:22 pm PST #1072 of 9843
most musicals aren't very much on plot. There are some exceptions like "Chess"
Dude, Chess has no more plot than any other musical! Love...er...semi-quadrangle, and political match, but...really, no more than most. Now, there are definitely some with less ("Assassins" springs to mind, as does t shudder "Cats")...
Typo Boy - Dec 19, 2002 10:07:38 pm PST #1073 of 9843
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
My Fair Lady has plot - but OK based upon Pygmalion, and thus non-musical roots.
OK Sweeny Todd (Sondheim version) tons of plot. And many of the subplots are new, not from the original Sweeny Todd legend.
evil jimi - Dec 19, 2002 10:20:29 pm PST #1074 of 9843
Lurching from one disaster to the next.
I finally scored a decent DVD player the other day. I did have a Voxson T172 but I got my money back b/c there was no feasible way to disable macrovision. I then bought a Magnavox MDVD-100 from Kmart (only $178) and used a CDR to flash the firmware to turn off macrovision and add a custom-made Buffy background. (The picture signal is much clearer if I run it through my VCR than the RF Modulator I also had to buy [and take back for a full refund from Dick Smith's].)
So now I've been buying Buffy DVDs to catch up on all the episodes I've missed (and which Channel 7 haven't repeated). So far I've bought the Season 1 box set and Season 2 Part 2 box set. I should have them all in the next couple of months.
I've watched a lot of TV in my time but no other show has ever made me cry -- either with joy, or sadness -- as much as Buffy the Vampire Slayer -- and I'm not the least bit ashamed to admit that. Damn you, Joss Whedon.