You make a very good point about Bush & 9/11 DavidS. Man I hate that fucker. Still I think the big ending is so reminiscent of 9/11 that I'm just not sure if it really works anymore.

Well, the big ending is more or less the narrative behind the huge conspiracy theory that 9/11 was engineered by Bush to justify an Iraq invasion. I don't believe it, but that story has legs.

I loved Watchmen. I was so impressed that it lived up to all the hype. So very interesting and complex and surprising and deep without trying too hard. Although it did try pretty hard at times.

Although it did try pretty hard at times.

Have you seen the script? Moore was shooting for Pynchon-like density of allusion. Every freaking visual in that book was scripted. A character throwing away a scrap of paper? Moore wrote it.

I'll always love Swamp Thing and V for Vendetta the most because that's where I discovered him, and that's where he discovered his talent. Those were fucking mind blowing comics in that era, I'll tell you what.

Watchmen will always be my first but I think I enjoy League the most though I haven't got myself a copy of Lost Girls yet, darnit. I do have a birthday this month...

I have a copy of Lost Girls! Sort of. It's at my brother's house, because it arrived late. Sigh. Maybe I'll go pick it up after work tomorrow.

I think I've asked before, but did anyone here read Voice of the Fire?

But I do love "Watchmen." Partly because it broke open so many doors, but also because it's got so many classic bits. And because of Rhorsach.

"You people don't understand. I'm not locked up in here with you. You're all locked up in here with me."

"You people don't understand. I'm not locked up in here with you. You're all locked up in here with me."

Oh yes.

I quoted that once while moderating the Angel boards.

I make my own fun.

Hm. Now I've finished it, and I was a little shocked at the ending, because it is twenty years later and the events of 9/11 really, *really* change your perspective on that kind of thing. To the point that, in Heroes even, I'm more than a little wary of the "bomb in new york" scenario. It's not that I don't find it believeable... I think it's something of the opposite. The characters in WM seem to be to be fundamentally different from the characters in today's titles. And that was a conscious choice in Moore's universe-- to have the culture lose faith in their heroes, whereas in DC or Marvel you go in reading with the bias that this is somehow culturally sanctioned, or at least accepted on some scale. Of course, they're confronting that on Civil War now, but I still think that the world as Moore made it is different from DC/Marvel in basic, fundamental ways and that changes your perception of the characters/heroes.

I think I'm in the wrong generation to be really moved by it. But I can see how it inspired other things, particularly things I *am* moved by. And I'm better for having read it.