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Other Media 2: It's Astounishing!

Discussion of comics, graphic novels, and more. Except for capes. No capes!

Please use spoiler font for new releases until after the weekend following release.


Polter-Cow - Jan 01, 2007 7:36:55 pm PST #43 of 5055
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I loved Watchmen. I was so impressed that it lived up to all the hype. So very interesting and complex and surprising and deep without trying too hard. Although it did try pretty hard at times.


DavidS - Jan 01, 2007 8:20:48 pm PST #44 of 5055
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Although it did try pretty hard at times.

Have you seen the script? Moore was shooting for Pynchon-like density of allusion. Every freaking visual in that book was scripted. A character throwing away a scrap of paper? Moore wrote it.

I'll always love Swamp Thing and V for Vendetta the most because that's where I discovered him, and that's where he discovered his talent. Those were fucking mind blowing comics in that era, I'll tell you what.


Laga - Jan 01, 2007 8:24:18 pm PST #45 of 5055
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

Watchmen will always be my first but I think I enjoy League the most though I haven't got myself a copy of Lost Girls yet, darnit. I do have a birthday this month...


Strega - Jan 01, 2007 8:40:01 pm PST #46 of 5055

I have a copy of Lost Girls! Sort of. It's at my brother's house, because it arrived late. Sigh. Maybe I'll go pick it up after work tomorrow.

I think I've asked before, but did anyone here read Voice of the Fire?


Sean K - Jan 01, 2007 8:44:34 pm PST #47 of 5055
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

But I do love "Watchmen." Partly because it broke open so many doors, but also because it's got so many classic bits. And because of Rhorsach.

"You people don't understand. I'm not locked up in here with you. You're all locked up in here with me."


victor infante - Jan 02, 2007 3:18:52 am PST #48 of 5055
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

"You people don't understand. I'm not locked up in here with you. You're all locked up in here with me."

Oh yes.


Strega - Jan 02, 2007 5:20:22 am PST #49 of 5055

I quoted that once while moderating the Angel boards.

I make my own fun.


esse - Jan 02, 2007 4:05:46 pm PST #50 of 5055
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Hm. Now I've finished it, and I was a little shocked at the ending, because it is twenty years later and the events of 9/11 really, *really* change your perspective on that kind of thing. To the point that, in Heroes even, I'm more than a little wary of the "bomb in new york" scenario. It's not that I don't find it believeable... I think it's something of the opposite. The characters in WM seem to be to be fundamentally different from the characters in today's titles. And that was a conscious choice in Moore's universe-- to have the culture lose faith in their heroes, whereas in DC or Marvel you go in reading with the bias that this is somehow culturally sanctioned, or at least accepted on some scale. Of course, they're confronting that on Civil War now, but I still think that the world as Moore made it is different from DC/Marvel in basic, fundamental ways and that changes your perception of the characters/heroes.

I think I'm in the wrong generation to be really moved by it. But I can see how it inspired other things, particularly things I *am* moved by. And I'm better for having read it.


Zenkitty - Jan 02, 2007 4:19:08 pm PST #51 of 5055
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I used to have a t-shirt with the Rorschach inkblot thing on it. I loved Watchmen, but esp. Rorschach.

"He liked pain..." "So Rorschach threw him down an elevator shaft."


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 04, 2007 6:01:42 pm PST #52 of 5055
"You should never say bad things about the dead, only good… Joan Crawford is dead. Good.” —Bette Davis

Ah, read the latest travestyCivil War issue today. Add Namor and the Watcher to the list of characters Millar has butchered, completely not getting their basic personalities and behavior(or not caring, and having them act however the nonsensical plot requires...). .