But I do love "Watchmen." Partly because it broke open so many doors, but also because it's got so many classic bits. And because of Rhorsach.

"You people don't understand. I'm not locked up in here with you. You're all locked up in here with me."

"You people don't understand. I'm not locked up in here with you. You're all locked up in here with me."

Oh yes.

I quoted that once while moderating the Angel boards.

I make my own fun.

Hm. Now I've finished it, and I was a little shocked at the ending, because it is twenty years later and the events of 9/11 really, *really* change your perspective on that kind of thing. To the point that, in Heroes even, I'm more than a little wary of the "bomb in new york" scenario. It's not that I don't find it believeable... I think it's something of the opposite. The characters in WM seem to be to be fundamentally different from the characters in today's titles. And that was a conscious choice in Moore's universe-- to have the culture lose faith in their heroes, whereas in DC or Marvel you go in reading with the bias that this is somehow culturally sanctioned, or at least accepted on some scale. Of course, they're confronting that on Civil War now, but I still think that the world as Moore made it is different from DC/Marvel in basic, fundamental ways and that changes your perception of the characters/heroes.

I think I'm in the wrong generation to be really moved by it. But I can see how it inspired other things, particularly things I *am* moved by. And I'm better for having read it.

I used to have a t-shirt with the Rorschach inkblot thing on it. I loved Watchmen, but esp. Rorschach.

"He liked pain..." "So Rorschach threw him down an elevator shaft."

Ah, read the latest travestyCivil War issue today. Add Namor and the Watcher to the list of characters Millar has butchered, completely not getting their basic personalities and behavior(or not caring, and having them act however the nonsensical plot requires...). .

OH, my GOD. Check out this post from scans_daily. (Civil War: Frontline spoiler)

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Emo! EEEEMOOOOOOO!

I saw "Civil War: Frontline" and thought there was some Frontline episode on the War Between the States. I was already waxing rhapsodical about how no where but b.org, would I read 'emo' in reaction to a Civil War news-show episode.

Of course I also thought I was in Minearverse.

The next new comics sensation, I swear.

Re: Watchmen's ending:

I think the problem isn't so much that we're in a post 9/11 environment that makes it unworkable today, but that we're in a post-Cold War environment. The "disaster in NY" could only effect the "unification of the world" when you're dealing with larger political/military entities in opposition. Introducing the "third party" opposition unites the two big boys vs. the new guy.

Now that there's only one superpower, a "third party", whether it's an interdimensional alien invader, or al-Qaeda only provokes the kind of response we see today...everything depends on how the lone superpower reacts to the attack, there's no "predictable dynamic".

If that makes any sense.